Up for sale is a pair of brand new (never put on) Loden Shell Alt Wien Carminas in a UK8 in the Forest last. I got these from a GMTO by Epaulet at approx. USD720. No marks to report. These will come with their shoe bags, shoe trees, and the original box. Shipping will be from the UK. Priced at USD 660 (by paypal), I am also willing to ship anywhere in the world with free shipping.