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Carmina black captoe -- calf or shell cordovan?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by bullswin, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. bullswin

    bullswin Senior member

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    Carmina offers the same black captoe in both calf and shell cordovan -- I'm interested in the shoe, but I'm not sure which one I want.

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    I feel like I haven't seen many black captoes on this forum is shell cordovan. Is that because it's a style and/or color of shoe that is not often made with shell? I've never owned a shell shoe, so I'm admittedly ignorant on this subject (i.e., any guidance or advice would be appreciated). The price difference is about $200, which isn't a big decision criteria for me, but thought I'd mention it.

    If you were me and deciding between the two options, which would you choose? Thank you.
     
  2. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I personally don't prefer cordovan in black - I prefer the patina, color variation, and depth of a brown tone. I think I would go with calf here.
     
  3. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    What I like about shell is the richness of the colors (whiskey, #8, etc.), so personally I have never been drawn to the black shell. I would just get the calf for less money. YMMV.
     
  4. forex

    forex Senior member

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    What they said. Also, you should be buying shoes based on what you need them for so you are the only one who can make the call.
     
  5. UncleCozy

    UncleCozy Senior member

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    Calf. More dressier and formal than cordovan, which black captoes are meant for.
     
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  6. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    Black shell on captoe look more cheap and rugged than a nice calf.
    Me have black vass F last captoe in shell and it a good beater shoe that not to pretty,
    it very very good.
    Shell is good cold and wet weather beater shoe.
    Sometime you want real fancy black captoe,
    sometime you want high quality captoe but not to fancy in leather appearance = shell
    Buy both.
     
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  7. bullswin

    bullswin Senior member

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    btw, I think this question has come up in other Carmina threads -- their online store (link on this page) does deduct VAT. I think the trick is you have to create an account, and once you do that and it knows your address is outside the EU, then all the prices displayed exclude VAT.

    so, the calf captoes above come out to 262 Euro + 40 Euro for shipping (or 302 Euro shipped).
     
  8. gyasih

    gyasih Senior member

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    Go with calf. I have an account and I don't see a VAT deduction.
     
  9. bullswin

    bullswin Senior member

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    If I'm logged out, the price for those calf captoes is displayed as 310 Euro, and on the product page, it says "tax included" below that displayed price. When logged in, it displays a price of 262 Euro, and the product page says "tax excluded" (pic below). Their site is a little funky to say the least.

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  10. gyasih

    gyasih Senior member

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    Got it to work thanks!! I ended up creating another account.
     
  11. Viral

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    has anyone successfully placed an order via their website using a credit card? I was under the impression that they only accept bank wire.

    Also, what duties were imposed upon delivery?
     
  12. Superfluous

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    I'm hearing about Carmina on here all the time now. Can someone give me a lowdown on it? Also, are their sizes US or UK?
     
  13. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    The lowdown is they are the shit - amazing lasts for under/about $500. Id take a Carmina over a JL/EG most days now.

    Sizing is UK.
     
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    Where do you buy yours from? The site directly?
     
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    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    always from the armoury.
     
  16. bullswin

    bullswin Senior member

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    I placed an order yesterday. They accept both credit card and paypal (minor tip: when going through the payment page, I had to disable popups in my browser).

    I also ordered a different pair through the armoury last week, so I'd be happy to report back on how the two experiences compare/contrast.
     
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    Thanks, very cool...........would love to hear back on how your experiences compare.

    Also, pics are a must :D
     
  18. LaymanX

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    Does anyone know when they'll start offering more selection on their e-boutique? It seems very limited when compared to their full offering.
     
  19. gyasih

    gyasih Senior member

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    Don't know the answer to your question, but they put a lot more than they originally had listed.
     
  20. Cuttingboard

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    Great to hear that the Armoury offers PayPal as a payment option.

    For those who have questions about the Armoury, they have their own thread with tons of info. The Armoury Official Affiliate Thread
     

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