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Carl Sagen's "Cosmos" is getting a reboot

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Reggs, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. Hombre Secreto

    Hombre Secreto Senior member

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    Doesn't the whole monkey thing really boil down to religion? Did he mention religion?
     
  2. Ataturk

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    A little. It was mostly insinuation.

    Anyway, the monkey thing is another straw man. The opposition to evolution is grounded in the application of evolution to human beings--i.e., scientific racism and social darwinism, which, of course, Tyson said absolutely nothing about.
     
  3. HORNS

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    Are those same people opposed to Relativity because of the atomic bomb?
     
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  4. Ataturk

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    No, but I don't remember anyone studying relativity and deciding poor people should be sterilized.
     
  5. HORNS

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    They studied relativity and decided that whole cities could be destroyed.
     
  6. Ataturk

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    The distinction between could and should is pretty important.
     
  7. Harold falcon

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    Do you have a link to this? Every current objection to evolution I've seen is grounded in religion.
     
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  8. Ataturk

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    It's both. Yes, there is the argument that the biblical history is literal. But the issue itself became important because evolution devalues human life and undermines Christian morality.
     
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  9. HORNS

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    Ataturk was home-schooled.
     
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  10. Harold falcon

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    Well that's a moral objection to it, not a factual one. Just because I think the sun setting every day devalues human life doesn't mean the sun doesn't set every day.
     
  11. Ataturk

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    Or a better analogy: No one would really care whether fetuses are alive if people weren't killing millions of them every year.
     
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  13. Ataturk

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    Horns, I'm surprised by your position. I'd think you'd have more of a personal stake in the eugenics issue than most...
     
  14. HORNS

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    I've got fantastic hybrid vigor.
     
  15. OliverGauffe

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    So glad this show is getting remade. I have always thought the original Cosmos series was underrated and deserved more credit... Now more than ever we need something like this... Unfortunately I haven't had time to even catch one episode, but that will change this weekend! I haven't been this excited about TV in a loooooong time.
     
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    What's up with all the commercial breaks on last night's episode? :mad:
     
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    One for every fetus killed yesterday
     
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    I've only watched the first 2 episodes so far but they seem well done. It's all pretty basic science, so I think anybody with a BSc or higher probably knows all of this stuff already. Even then, it's presented in such a way that it's still entertaining imo
     
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    In the fourth episode they mention John Michell, "one of the greatest scientists you've never heard of." He's portrayed as a black African. I thought, I bet he's got an interesting story. Wonder why we've never heard of him. Surely if he was black, we would have...

    Then Tyson admits there's no portrait then says he was described as having a "black complexion." Which anyone and everyone knows, in the 18th century, just meant you were a white person with a dark complexion. And of course google confirms that there's not the slightest reason to think Michell, an Englishman, was actually an African.

    You've got to be kidding me. They would not make these admissions unless they knew the things they were portraying were untrue. How can you believe anything else Tyson says?
     
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  20. HORNS

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    This should make you happy, Ataturk.

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