Cardigan with a tie - stylish flex or just old man-esque?

[Mr Tickle]

Is it ok to wear a tie with a cardigan standing in for the jacket, like this? Or is it just better to drop the tie?
Or just wear a normal jacket?
(Am basically thinking of a tie-optional work environment for this one)
It is a knitted tie and worn with cord trousers to keep it all casual.


Edit: uploading new pics with better lighting

 

[rjc149]

If you're wearing a cardigan with a professional outfit (ie. around the office on cold days) then wearing a necktie underneath is fine.

I personally do not think neckties (of any sort) should be worn with non-professional/formal attire. Wearing ties casually is a very hipster look.

 

[tweedlover]

If you're wearing a cardigan with a professional outfit (ie. around the office on cold days) then wearing a necktie underneath is fine.

I personally do not think neckties (of any sort) should be worn with non-professional/formal attire. Wearing ties casually is a very hipster look.

Been retired 4 years now and haven't attached a tie to my neck since. But, previously worked in a professional setting where I'd wear either a sport jacket or cardigan in colder months and always with a tie.

 

[Mr Tickle]

If you're wearing a cardigan with a professional outfit (ie. around the office on cold days) then wearing a necktie underneath is fine.

I personally do not think neckties (of any sort) should be worn with non-professional/formal attire. Wearing ties casually is a very hipster look.

My grandad always used to wear a tie around the house.with a waistcoat usually. And sometimes a fez. And he definitely wasn't a hipster. Even though from that description he certainly sounds like one.

 

[rjc149]

My grandad always used to wear a tie around the house.with a waistcoat usually. And sometimes a fez. And he definitely wasn't a hipster. Even though from that description he certainly sounds like one.

"Hipster" isn't defined by attire -- a hipster's attire is a symptom of the individual's hipsterhood.

A hipster's attire itself also doesn't conform to a strict rubric of "if then" algorithms ie. "if one wears a necktie casually, then that person is a hipster."

This is all because an objective definition of a hipster doesn't exist (that I'm aware of).

It generally refers to a younger person, or an older person clinging to youth, from a western society, who identifies as counter-cultural and non-conforming to social conventions.

With that identity, the individual either maintains a smug feeling of superiority over those conventions and those who follow them, or, is simply conforming to a group identity as most human beings are wont to do.

Hipsters generally hold liberal or left-leaning viewpoints, embrace extreme pacifism, enjoy art in various forms, and often live by ideals of thrift, frugality, and sustainability.

Hipster mentality often seeks to resist conventions surrounding gender roles (many hipsters are either consciously or unconsciously gender-neutral), entertainment (listening to weird, sh!tty bands you've never heard of and insisting they're great, because you've never heard of them), tech (eschewing tech and embracing retro items and styling), religion (often being outspoken atheists or adopting non-western religious beliefs and/or customs) and fashion.

Underlying many hipster conventions is irony over the fact that hipsters are overwhelmingly young, white, college-educated urbanites from affluent backgrounds. This irony is often quite evident in hipster fashion, with hipsters purposefully dressing frumpily to appear dorky or nerdy, or incorporating outdated modes of dress into their style, as consciously counter-conventional.

Thus, the wearing of neckties casually, fedoras, wearing spats, dressing like a lumberjack, etc. would all fall under "hipster attire" if other conditions within the loose rubric are met -- the most important of which are youth and relative affluence.

Given that your grandfather is not a youth, and dresses authentically to his time and place in this world and not as a conscious advertisement of counter-culture identity or conformity to it, him wearing a necktie and waistcoat casually would not make him a hipster.

It would not necessarily make you a hipster either. As explained, hipsterhood is a mentality, rather than a set of attributes or a rubric of boxes to be checked.

 

[Old Red]

Our local symphony does 'casual' concerts on Sunday afternoons. I've gone twice this year wearing a cardigan and tie.
*Edit to mention I am an old man.

 

[Cliffnopus]

I'm also a 'well aged' gentleman and I'd wear it - if I had a cardigan. Hell, I've worn a tie under a cashmere 'V' neck.

 

[Cause Moe]

Wearing a cardigan over a tie makes one look like a grown-up. Neither modern-day "hipsters" nor those who were known by an earlier definition of "hipster" in the 1950's have shown much interest in looking like grown-ups. There is nothing wrong with an adult dressing nicely, like an adult.

 

[rjc149]

Wearing a cardigan over a tie makes one look like a grown-up. Neither modern-day "hipsters" nor those who were known by an earlier definition of "hipster" in the 1950's have shown much interest in looking like grown-ups. There is nothing wrong with an adult dressing nicely, like an adult.

It can be argued that casually wearing a necktie under a sweater makes you look more like a prep schoolboy than an adult, especially these days. Few adults GenX+ wear neckties outside of formal settings. Those who do could very well fall into the loose modern definition of 'hipster.'