Can't lose my gut - wtf??

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by micbain, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. why

    why Senior member

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    I know this is a controversial topic, but consider doing sprints or intervals instead of the long, slow jogging on a treadmill that you are doing. I see a lot, and I mean a lot!, of "joggers" who are flabby around the midsection. I rarely see people who sprint/do intervals who are flabby. Try 4 X 800 meters, or 6 X 400 meters, or 10 X 100 meters. I try and keep the rest between intervals the same: 800 meters, I rest 3 minutes, 400 meters, I rest 2 minutes, 100 meters, I rest 2 minutes.
    It's controversial because using that anecdotal 'empirical' evidence makes Francis Bacon shit a brick in his grave.
    I understand that, the problem is starving people in west Africa are perpetually underfed so their bodies never have a chance to try and recover. The rest of us, if we try to starve ourselves, will eventually eat normally again only our metabolism has been shocked by the starvation event into conservation mode, which means trying to save up for the next famine in the form of fat storage.
    You've been hearing too many Chinese whispers. There's a lot more going on than you think. 'Conservation mode' is a metabolic depression caused by downregulation of normal, nonessential bodily processes and lack of thermogenesis from food. It won't affect insulin sensitivity too much and protein metabolism will be nearly unimpaired. In other words, only dietary fat will have much of an effect in people in 'conservation mode'.
    Dude - I do track my calories. I use http://www.calorie-count.com/ to keep track. I don't under estimate things - read the labels carefully and track them. Fast foods/Junk food are very calorie rich. Having a home made turkey sandwich has a lot less calories then a bigmac or quarter pounder.
    How long have you been on this diet, and how far do you 'jog' each time you do cardio?
     


  2. whacked

    whacked Senior member

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    ^ Most treadmills overestimate calories burnt by at least 20% as well.
     


  3. Grayland

    Grayland Senior member

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    OP,
    You used your present workout/diet plan to lose 30 lbs. Congratulations. Even though you have love handles, you're 6'1, 170 lbs. That's pretty slim! I would add some weightlifting, add some sprinting/interval cardio work and start eating a bit more. 1500 calories worked well to burn off the 30 lbs., but you need to shake things up a bit. Start putting some intensity into your program and that intensity will need calories. The stomach is the hardest part to lose, but it will melt away eventually.
     


  4. Grayland

    Grayland Senior member

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    Nil Senior member

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    A restricted calorie diet and only cardio is a good recipe for becoming skinny fat, which you seem to have become. Start lifting weights. Stick to compound lifts. Watch your form and start light and your back should be fine.
     


  6. unexpected

    unexpected Senior member

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    easy solution:

    you have to gain muscle mass. For this you can't stick to 1500 calories. I would bump up your calorie count to 2200-2300, and instead of doing long jogs for cardio, LIFT.

    Like really lift. If you can't lift because of your back get it looked at. You're 25 years old and have back problems? Seriously, if you have back problems now, just wait until your 50. Lifting will help develop your back muscles which also might alleviate your pain.

    Yes, you will put some fat back on, but as long as you put more muscle then fat, your body % will have shrank. Then after you've bulked to 190, cut back down to 175, like you've done now. As long as you burn more fat than muscle, your body % has again decreased. This is called "bulking" and "cutting" and is what bodybuilders do.
     


  7. bearlydavid

    bearlydavid Senior member

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    I would agree with the above poster, definintely increase calorie intake, that is a ridiculous low amount.

    You could try switching your regular jogging style of cardio for HIIT, high intensity interval training, which basically your sprinting and then resting, so for example, sprint 100 yards, rest 30 s. to 1 min. repeat 10 times.

    As well as getting on some kind of weight lifting regiment.
     


  8. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    Strength train, don't just do cardio.
     


  9. why

    why Senior member

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    It's only controversial because most people aren't willing to push themselves with sprints. It's hard work. Most people would rather walk on a treadmill while talking on a cell phone or jog on a treadmill while watching Sportscenter.

    ...and in the end, the bloke watching Sportscenter can oxidize fat just as well as you can.

    Congrats on doing sprints...want me to pat you on the back and break out the Blue Label?
     


  10. West24

    West24 Senior member

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    how come every thread somebody comes out and acts like a huge know it all douche bag? why has won it this round! i love how you come in and throw things around, telling him what he is doing, and how crap he is eating when he didnt even state what he was eating? youre a stereo typical "know it all" wannabe and was probably fat when younger, and now loves telling people how everything they are doing is wrong and give off that sence of superiority.
     


  11. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    I'm curious what why does for a living, and what his completed degrees are. He strikes me as someone who's still working on his undergrad and is learning something new in his classes each day.
     


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    West24 Senior member

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    i can see him in my head now, one of those 5'3 guys who is bulky, big but not toned, short man syndrome, would drive a hummer h2 if he could afford it, low self-esteem, loves putting people down on the internet. always has to prove he knows more, or is better then you.
     


  13. Viktri

    Viktri Senior member

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    Alright - I'm about 6 foot 1 and weight in at 170lbs. Sounds decent but man, I have a gut I can't get rid of. I used to weight 200lbs + and lost 30lbs over a year through eating better and exercising more; however, I can't lose the love handles.

    What I'm doing (and have done in the past to lose weight):

    1. Cardio for 30-45mins 3x a week (treadmill jogging)
    2. Caloric intake of 1500 a day (on average)

    Anything you fitness/health guru's can suggest? I've tried lowering the caloric intake to 1000 calories but I can't survive more than a few days on that.

    I don't lift weights as I've been told that you can't build muscle when on a caloric deficit.

    Thoughts?


    I loled. Anyway, Congrats on the weight loss. Despite what Grayland said above I don't think you are slim at 6 ft 1 170 pounds yet and, given your comments on your flab, I think you would agree with me.

    Like Eason suggested, strength training would be a good idea right now. If I were you, I would up my calorie intake until I feel satisfied (without exceed whatever your estimated calorie maintaining level) and hit the weights with medium intensity until soreness is tolerable and then high intensity. With medium intensity I would train more often than the recommended 3x per week until you become more tolerable and then train as you see fit when you lift heavy.

    The results will be slower than before.
     


  14. micbain

    micbain Senior member

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    I won't lie - I'm a little hesitant to bump up the calories. I fear gaining the weight back.
     


  15. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    I've been there man, once you see that through diet and exercise you have complete control over your weight, you'll be able to experiment more.
     


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