can you tell by this pic if it is goodyear or hand welted?

[DWFII]

Regardless whether a shoe is lasted by hand or machine, welted by hand or machine or has the outsole applied by hand or machine, the last (more likely to be plastic these days) stays inside the shoe until all the work is completed. Once the shoe is finished in it's entity, the last gets removed.

Only exception would be Blake-construction, which needs the last to be removed temporarily for the Blake-stitcher to operate.

Right...but even in the case of Blake the insole and outsole are in place before the last is removed.

 

[brax]

Thanks for the clarification on the timing of the removal of the last. But I trust that I adequately explained the purpose of lasting in the shoe making process.

 

[DWFII]

Thanks for the clarification on the timing of the removal of the last. But I trust that I adequately explained the purpose of lasting in the shoe making process.

I'm sure you did.

I got the impression that the post you were replying to was asking specifically about hand lasting...maybe from the words in that post--"hand lasting."

Regardless, I have a hard time imagining that, given the short video, the concept of lasting, itself, is not understood. I assume there is a language barrier but given the long standing misunderstanding (and misuse) of the term "goodyear welting" in that part of the world, I kind of hoped to head off a similar situation.

FWIW...and no disrespect intended...it's always best to have a clear understanding of how things work before trying to explain to others.

IMO...

 

[UNOAIMX]

If you take a pair of a good year welted shoes and "repair" it by hand like what this pro Japanese repairman did, then its a Good Year Hand Welted lol, so its all good, no oxymoron.

 

[DWFII]

Not really. 'Goodyear Welted' always refers to a method of construction and always implicitly refers to a limited set of materials techniques and results. Same is true for 'Hand Welted.'

What you have there is a hand sewn repair or welt replacement.

 

[Nick V.]

Replacing a welt on a Goodyear welted shoe is the same as replacing a welt on a hand welted one.
The only difference is what the welt is stitched to.
With a GY welted shoe it gets stitched to the gemming. On a hand welted shoe it gets stitched to the feather. In either case the original holes are being used.

 

[Maja Bayyoud]

Thank you all for your contributions again, I think I've got a clear idea of the terminology and would never have gotten to that point without all of you!

I've written a blog about my experiences as a novice of discovering how all this works, and given the forum a shoutout for all the useful support. It seems there's a lot of brands out there using misleading language to describe their dress shoes, which I covered with reference to specific brands. You can have a read here, please do let me know if I've miscommunicated anything and I'll update it:

Maja