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Can you knowledgeable people help with these sport jackets fit?

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Hello,

I would appreciate your opinion on whether or not these 2 jackets fit. I am no expert but I think the navy corduroy fits better on the shoulders. Is it me or the shoulders on the second one don't seem as natural and a tad too big? Both are soft unlined jackets.

Both are a bit tight around the arm holes and although I prefer the way the corduroy fits, the second one feels more comfortable which is a shame.

Can tight arm holes be fixed by a tailor to a certain degree? I don't think going a size up would work for either since the shoulders would be too big.

So it's either I bring them to a tailor and hope for the best or I return them and look for another brand.

PS. please don't mind the tags and the jeans
 

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Both sport jackets fit pretty bad. Sleeves too long, which can be fixed. Jacket length way too short, can't be fixed. Shoulders look fine on the corduroy jacket because corduroy is a bit more rigid than wool so it holds shape of the extended shoulder better. Being stiffer also means it is not as stretchy as wool, explaining why the second jacket is more comfortable, but not helping with the extended shoulder.

If you wear it for fashion, you'll be fine. If you are looking for CM enthusiasts opinions, return both of them.
 

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Honestly, there’s so much wrong with both that it’s hard to know where to start. The jackets are too small or poorly made, or perhaps both. I’d save time and energy and move on to something else.
 

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Both sport jackets fit pretty bad. Sleeves too long, which can be fixed. Jacket length way too short, can't be fixed. Shoulders look fine on the corduroy jacket because corduroy is a bit more rigid than wool so it holds shape of the extended shoulder better. Being stiffer also means it is not as stretchy as wool, explaining why the second jacket is more comfortable, but not helping with the extended shoulder.

If you wear it for fashion, you'll be fine. If you are looking for CM enthusiasts opinions, return both of them.
Thanks for the advice man. I was expecting the ''if it doesn't cover your ass, it looks crap'' so no surprises there. This brand is a bit fashion forward and unfortunately, all their jackets are very short. I would prefer if they were longer but I think I can live with that. The reason I chose them is because they are unlinded and the fabrics are amazing.

In any case, if we forget about the lenght of the jacket and the long sleeves which would be tailored, is the fit still bad? If so, where does it need improvements?
 

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In any case, if we forget about the lenght of the jacket and the long sleeves which would be tailored, is the fit still bad?
yes. And you can’t just forget about those things. They would still need to be done at a cost so consider that in the overall investment.
 

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Honestly, there’s so much wrong with both that it’s hard to know where to start. The jackets are too small or poorly made, or perhaps both. I’d save time and energy and move on to something else.
When you say the jackets are too small, do you mean the lenght or you mean that I should size up? I agree about the length (shorter jackets are not very popular around here) but I really think sizing up would make the shoulder too big, especially on the second one which IMO is on the verge of being too big already. Don't you think so? Can you also point out what else is wrong with them that can't be tailored? It would help a lot.

As for the jackets, they are both Boglioli K-Jackets so they are definitely not poorly made.
 

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Return.
 

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It’s not about being poorly made. They just don’t fit. Don’t fit to the point of not being able to be altered. Just get rid of them.
 

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In addition to the body length being short, the buttoning point seems quite high on you. Hard to tell as you are not wearing a dress shirt but in some of the pictures I wonder whether there is also a significant collar gap. I agree with not keeping the jackets. It's more than the body being short (though that's an important factor); they just really don't look good on you in my opinion.
 

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I just went to see my tailor today and he more or less confirmed what you people have been telling me about the length of the jackets and what I already knew. It's very fashion forward and way too short to be considered CM. He was not a fan of it.

However, he also told me that, aside from some minor alterations needed, the corduroy jacket fits exactly like a Boglioli should fit.The second was more debatable since the wool/cashmere blend didn't really help the shoulders like the corduroy did. So even after alterations, I would probably not get the natural shoulder feel that I am looking for with soft tailoring. It just left me more confused as to whether or not to keep them.

I also looked at some of the posters here wearing jackets that were praised for their good fit and although some were gergeous, a lot of them looked to me like they added 15 years to the posters and something like my grand-father would wear (no offense to all the grand-fathers here). Is it due to my CM untrained eye? Probably, but it sure as hell didn't help solve my dilemma.

Anyway, thanks for the advises. I will just go wear a rice sack while I think about it; it's going to be much simpler.
 

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I also looked at some of the posters here wearing jackets that were praised for their good fit and although some were gergeous, a lot of them looked to me like they added 15 years to the posters and something like my grand-father would wear (no offense to all the grand-fathers here). Is it due to my CM untrained eye? Probably, but it sure as hell didn't help solve my dilemma.

Pics or......


 

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^ makes me wonder why he wants the advice of a bunch of guys content to dress like their grandfathers.
 

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@ter1413

Pics? You want me to look again through the posts, single out the ones I didn't like and post them here? And what exactly would it achieve except showing outfits that I don't like? It's not like I am qualified enough in CM to pin point exactly what I think is wrong with them. And if your last 2 posts in this thread are of any indication, you probably would not be the one telling me what they did right.

@Phileas Fogg

Actually, like I mentioned, while I disliked a lot of them, I though some of them were very nice. As for the advice, i got the answers I was looking for. It gave me something to think about when purchasing jackets in the future and made me rethink about keeping these ones. It also helped me pinpoint the things I wanted to be improved and explain them better to my tailor.
 

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