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Camp collar flannel shirts, aye or nay?

Sprezzatura2010

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I was looking through the Paul Stuart website, and I noticed a few flannel shirts in their "Cooper" camp collar. While I have a fair number of camp collar shirts in linen, cotton-linen blends, and summer-weight cotton, it has never occurred to me to look for such a shirt in a heavier cotton or flannel like these:
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Coopers are stupid expensive for double-needle shirts with plastic buttons, I bet a heavier fabric would roll nicely with that kind of collar. Has anyone tried one of those shirts, or something similar? (Does anyone else make this kind of thing RTW?) Thoughts?
 

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I have a few Kiton camp collars and they are great.

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In heavier fabrics?
 

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The Loro Piana Andre model is quite nice, too.
 

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Loro Piana makes (made?) a bunch in both heavy cotton and a cotton and wool blend. They were really nice, from what I remember.
 

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Have some Zegna cashmere/cotton flannel with that collar, some of my favourite shirts!

But also in summer linen, from various makers.
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Loro Piana makes (made?) a bunch in both heavy cotton and a cotton and wool blend. They were really nice, from what I remember.

Yup. I've got a few of of those though my favorite is a cashmere/silk in a cream/gray plaid that's exceptional.
 

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Originally Posted by voxsartoria
No, the ones that I have are in summer poplin.

Oh, I have a bunch summer-weight camp collar shirts. Mostly from Fray, Cifonelli, Charvet, and RLPL. No Kitons, because I see nothing about their shirts that justifies the price tag. I just could not recall seeing a winter-weight camp collar shirt before, and was intrigued enough to see what people thought about them.

Thanks for the tip, Matt and aportnoy, about the Loro Pianas. I really like their shirts generally, as far as RTW goes. I'll have to look out for those.
 

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Originally Posted by Sprezzatura2010
Oh, I have a bunch summer-weight camp collar shirts. Mostly from Fray, Cifonelli, Charvet, and RLPL.

Camp collar Charvet? That's cool.

Is it unfused like their standard collars?


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Is it me or is flannel really in this season? Seemed like Zegna had a ton of flannel when I was there a couple weeks ago. Lot's of pants too.
 

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Why not, especially if you like the shirt. Flannel is a casual shirt anyway. I see no reason to overthink this.
 

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What are "camp collars"?
 

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For me, a camp collar isn't really a camp collar without the loop. As for flannel, I'm a big fan of vintage Viyella wool/cotton flannel shirts.
 

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Paul Stuart Cooper collar shirts are my #1 favorite shirts for business casual dress -- the fabrics are fantastic, luxuriously soft, and come in a surprisingly varied array of colors and contents. I've got perhaps a dozen Paul Stuart Cooper collar shirts, and I get a ton of wear out of them. The brushed cotton ones are amazing -- like wearing cashmere. I've got some linens for summer, and a few heavy cotton ones for winter. I'd love a cashmere Cooper, but they'll set you back $400+. Among other camp collared shirts I have, I prefer PS's Coopers. OK, they have plastic buttons but they're the best damn plastic there is -- they never, ever break at the cleaners. As for other camps -- that I recall, I have two Kitons (fit isn't great), 2 Loro Pianas (again, fit isn't great, and fabric shows wear too quickly), and a Luciano Barbera (perhaps the best of the non-Paul Stuarts). I always just tell my wife that for Christmas, she can't go wrong getting me a couple of Paul Stuart cooper collar shirts (and some PS socks)....

Now, for business shirts, I prefer Borrelli, Barba, and Turnbull & Asser; but, when a tie isn't called for, the Paul Stuart coopers get my vote.
 

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