C & J Boots for talking

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  1. Salsalocust

    Salsalocust Senior member

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    Could I have opinions on the relative merits of these two very different sample boots in UK 7.5E.

    Neither is currently being placed for sale on Ebay until I clear a 7.5 or two, so I thought I'd see what you thought of them.

    The first is a "Greenwich". I think it's on the 348 last with a dainite sole. The combination of the 'rough out nubuck' [edit: see #9 below] with the burnished toe will divide opinion.

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    The second is a "Welland". It is on the 341 last with a double leather sole. As a high sided boot which I would call a 'George' boot,I imagine it is destined for the European (German?) market.

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  2. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    I like the interesting contrast effect of the first pair.
     


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    Tarmac Senior member

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    I like both of them though I would probably purchase the Welland way before I convinced myself to by the first one.

    Also I wish they would go wholecut on at least the outseam of the chelsea?
     


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    Does C&J makes chelsea or Joudphour on 341? I would like to have a double-sole boot.
     


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    Does C&J makes chelsea or Joudphour on 341? I would like to have a double-sole boot.

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    von Rothbart Senior member

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    I also like the contrasting effect of Greenwich. If I do a MTO Greenwich I'd like the upper vamp and upper in calf with a shade or two lighter than the toe-wing and heel counter.
     


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    dkzzzz Senior member

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    Thank you. They don't list the price at plal for this model. Should I assume they cost the same as the most expencive boots listed there? Which is 1299=$382.00
     


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    Thank you. They don't list the price at plal for this model. Should I assume they cost the same as the most expencive boots listed there? Which is 1299=$382.00

    The price in C&J's mail order & retail catalogue 2006/07 is GBP 330 - that's pretty much the same price as a pair of Handgrades!

    It's available at Pediwear for GBP 290 (excluding VAT).
     


  9. Salsalocust

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    I'm not thrilled with the Greenwich. But then I've always been iffy about Chelseas (even though my RM Williams Craftsman are among my favorite shoes). To me the Greenwich is too dressy and too country.

    I love the Welland. I'd like it even more with a cap toe.

    Also, is the Cottesmore the same as the Polo Holland?
     


  11. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I don't care for the Greenwich. It makes me think of some Ballband boots that are stinking up a local discount store. Maybe I'd like it more in person.

    I do like the Welland.
     


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    grimslade Senior member

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    Also, is the Cottesmore the same as the Polo Holland?


    They are on different lasts, for starters.
     


  13. Salsalocust

    Salsalocust Senior member

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    BTW: The Welland UK 7.5E is now listed

    Regards,

    Graham
     


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    Sander Senior member

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    The second is a "Welland". It is on the 341 last with a double leather sole. As a high sided boot which I would call a 'George' boot,I imagine it is destined for the European (German?) market.

    As a German, I would like to know why you think this style was intended for the German market.
     


  15. Salsalocust

    Salsalocust Senior member

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    Hi,

    Simply from talking to people at Tricker's and C & J.

    It is possible to profile which shoes are intended for which markets: red linings, 'bentley green' socks for this market, suede or crepe sole for that , cordovan shell for the other and tan brogue boots for another.



    Cancelled orders that don't make their intended markets also help. The "?" indicates that it was merely a suggestion nothing more.

    It wasn't meant as a sleight. I hope no offence was taken?

    Regards,

    Graham
     


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