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C&J 337 Last

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by hopkins_student, May 30, 2006.

  1. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Distinguished Member

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    I've only seen this last in pictures, so I've got a pretty good idea of what it looks like but I'm not entirely sure about the toe shape. Is it just barely a chisel-toe, if at all? It seems relatively sleek with maybe just a hint of squaring at the toe. Is my understanding of the last correct? I'm thinking of picking up a monk and a cap-toe oxford, in black calf on a sleek last without too much chisel, and the Savile and Audley look like they might fill the bill.
     


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    It's not a chiselled-toe, but it is more than a little squarish. I think of them as an elongated square toe with a bit of roundness.
     


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    Here's a couple of pics of the Weymouth on the 337. It's a nice sleek shape. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     


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    You might head to the Beverly Hills RL store and try on their Polo shoes made by C&J on the 337 last. The only model I'm certain qualifies is the Alton, a suede wingtip derby, but I'm sure others can list more models.
     


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    The Benton is the Belgrade and is on the 337 last and if they still have it the Tellman is also available but I believe that is on the 330 last.


    Perry
     


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    grimslade Stylish Dinosaur

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    The Benton is the Belgrade and is on the 337 last and if they still have it the Tellman is also available but I believe that is on the 330 last.


    Perry


    I'll grant that the Polo Benton looks a lot like the C&J Belgrave. But the Polo Web site says "Made in Italy." Is this just a mistake?
     


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    grimslade Stylish Dinosaur

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    You know, if you look at the blown-up picture, it looks like it says "Hand Made in England" on three lines in the heel. So, never mind.
     


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    Jovan Banned for Good

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    I wonder if there's a 1337 last.
     


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    It's not a chiselled-toe, but it is more than a little squarish. I think of them as an elongated square toe with a bit of roundness.
    Although I'd agree that the C&J 337 last doesn't have a sharply chiseled toe, I think that it definitely does have something of a chiseled toe form--perhaps what we might call a "mildly-chiseled toe." I think that's apparent in this picture of the Weymouth:

    [​IMG]

    Edit: As an aside, I just realized, once again, what a truly great-looking shoe the Weymouth is. I don't have a pair, but should definitely get my order in to Shyam. The only thing I've ever found slightly wrong with it is a slightly wider-than-desirable sole extension. If I got a pair, I'd have the soles cut back by about 2-3 mm. from the breast forward.
     


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    I wonder if there's a 1337 last.
    5h03 n00b lolz!!!11111!111!!!
     


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    I wonder if there's a 1337 last.

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    Edit: As an aside, I just realized, once again, what a truly great-looking shoe the Weymouth is. I don't have a pair, but should definitely get my order in to Shyam. The only thing I've ever found slightly wrong with it is a slightly wider-than-desirable sole extension. If I got a pair, I'd have the soles cut back by about 2-3 mm. from the breast forward.[/I]

    I was thinking exactly the same thing on my way to a lunch-time meeting. I really need to order the Weymouth. What's the chance C&J will stop making it before, say, the end of next year?
     


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    Although I'd agree that the C&J 337 last doesn't have a sharply chiseled toe, I think that it definitely does have something of a chiseled toe form--perhaps what we might call a "mildly-chiseled toe." I think that's apparent in this picture of the Weymouth:

    [​IMG]

    Edit: As an aside, I just realized, once again, what a truly great-looking shoe the Weymouth is. I don't have a pair, but should definitely get my order in to Shyam. The only thing I've ever found slightly wrong with it is a slightly wider-than-desirable sole extension. If I got a pair, I'd have the soles cut back by about 2-3 mm. from the breast forward.


    Roger - that could just be an artifact of the photo angle in that thumbnail. My pair (http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/6981/wey2fn4.jpg) from this angle doesn't look so extreme, although they are not as closely cut as EGs. And in any case you've got two pairs of Newburys - what do you need with another pair of wholecuts?? [​IMG]
     


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    Roger - that could just be an artifact of the photo angle in that thumbnail. My pair (http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/6981/wey2fn4.jpg) from this angle doesn't look so extreme, although they are not as closely cut as EGs. And in any case you've got pairs of Newburys - what do you need with another pair of wholecuts?? [​IMG]

    There is no such thing as too many wholecuts [​IMG]
     


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    There is no such thing as too many wholecuts [​IMG]

    Preaching to the converted... [​IMG]
     


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