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Buzz Words that are annoying

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by odoreater, May 6, 2008.

  1. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    Jon is not a troll.
    Agree. Definitely not a troll. Kwilk is not a troll either. No trolls here. They have their own forum.
     
  2. hplindley

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    "For example" doesn't fit because I listed all of the violations. "Including" doesn't fit because it doesn't tell the Judge that I'm listing all of the examples. I.e. is no good because it wasn't a paranthetical, and it shouldn't be used in formal writing outside of a paranthetical. Next.
    If you listed all the violations, just say "all violations of the defendant [are/ as follows/ include]." I don't know why you'd want to tell a judge it's an exhaustive list, but that's your issue. Using "to wit" is the equivalent of wearing a Johnnie Cochran suit to court. [​IMG] "If you use 'to wit,' you're a nitwit." -Johnnie Cochran, 1999.
     
  3. odoreater

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    "that is"

    Damn, foiled! Yes, I guess I could have used "that is" but, under the circumstances, I didn't feel it was right.

    Yes, hp, you are right, using "to wit" is exactly like wearing a Johnny Cochran suit. But remember, Johnny Cochran had a pretty good record.

    EDIT: By the way, I won the motion that the brief was supporting, so there.
     
  4. hplindley

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    Good for you! I'm not saying you can't win if you use the term. I just personally don't like it.

    Can I borrow your purple suit?
     
  5. dkzzzz

    dkzzzz Well-Known Member

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    Low-hanging fruit.

    Annoying antonym to sour grapes.
     
  6. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    Can I borrow your purple suit?


    How am I supposed to be pimpin' if you have my purple suit? [​IMG]
     
  7. RJman

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    Damn, foiled! Yes, I guess I could have used "that is" but, under the circumstances, I didn't feel it was right.

    That's why it pays to go to a top 49 law school.
     
  8. RJman

    RJman Well-Known Member

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    No trolls here.
    What, are you, smokin,?

    What about Conne and dkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? And that Indian porn star guy?
     
  9. EL72

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    +2

    My Intro to management professor kept on using the term as if it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    Jon.


    While there is no need to overuse it, synergy is a very useful term to describe how corporate diversification allows firms to save $ or achieve economies of scope. What other synonym would you use to explain this concept of a whole being worth more than the sum of its parts?
     
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    While there is no need to overuse it, synergy is a very useful term to describe how corporate diversification allows firms to save $ or achieve economies of scope. What other synonym would you use to explain this concept of a whole being worth more than the sum of its parts?

    He overused it, and it used it not just in the context you mention.

    Jon.
     
  11. gdl203

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    While there is no need to overuse it, synergy is a very useful term to describe how corporate diversification allows firms to save $ or achieve economies of scope. What other synonym would you use to explain this concept of a whole being worth more than the sum of its parts?
    Cost synergies = cost savings
    Revenue synergies = new revenue opportunities

    "synergies" by itself is way too vague to actually mean anything - although I'm guilty of using it on a regular basis....
     
  12. EL72

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    Cost synergies = cost savings
    Revenue synergies = new revenue opportunities

    "synergies" by itself is way too vague to actually mean anything - although I'm guilty of using it on a regular basis....


    Of course you can explain in a more detailed manner how M&As generate cost savings or new revenue opportunities (I usually refer to economies of scale or scope in this context) but it's still useful to have an all-encompassing term that highlights the 'synergistic' (for lack of a better word) aspect of combining certain things that result in a 1+1 =3 situation. None of the more explanatory terms achieve this imo.
     
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    As someone who writes a lot in public relations, Synergize drives me into a frenzy. Nothing annoys me more than someone who turns a noun into a verb, especially a noun that is vague to start with, just what is syngergy? It's a plastic management word from the 1980s.

    Also,"thinking outside the box" should be part of the banned phrases in regular international business language.
     
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    That's why it pays to go to a top 49 law school.

    Your post reminds me of other annoying words and phrases, to wit:
    1. Bottom of the top tier law school;
    2. Upscale;
    3. Strategic thinking; and
    4. Value added.
     
  16. odoreater

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    Your post reminds me of other annoying words and phrases, to wit:
    1. Bottom of the top tier law school;
    2. Upscale;
    3. Strategic thinking; and
    4. Value added.


    Sweet use of to wit! Very clever. I like it.
     
  17. dkzzzz

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    What, are you, smokin,?

    What about Conne and dkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? And that Indian porn star guy?


    I am almost convinced that you are a reptile with unusual fondness for pressing computer keys.
     
  18. Thracozaag

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    I am almost convinced that you are a reptile with unusual fondness for pressing computer keys.

    What would completely convince you?
     
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    I am almost convinced that you are a reptile with unusual fondness for pressing computer keys.

    This is good stuff. I guess they've finally started showing "V" on Mipos Cablevision.
     
  20. EL72

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    As someone who writes a lot in public relations, Synergize drives me into a frenzy. Nothing annoys me more than someone who turns a noun into a verb, especially a noun that is vague to start with, just what is syngergy? It's a plastic management word from the 1980s.

    I've never heard it as a verb. Makes no sense. I agree.

    That said, synergy has a very specific meaning in the corporate diversification literature.
     

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