Buying my wife a goldendoodle: good or bad idea?

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  1. NorCal

    NorCal Senior member

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    This is not always such a bad thing.
     


  2. bmf895

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    The thing is . . The so-called cross breeders charge ($$$$) the same price if not more than what purebred dogs go for. But you're not getting any of the benefits of a purebred dog with 100s of years of selective breeding to prevent genetic diseases and to establish good temperaments.

    Why risk the $$$$ when you have no idea what kind of dog you'll end up with? With a purebred from a good breeder, they'll be able to tell you about the kind of temperament and/or any health problems associated with their line. The cross-breeder wouldn't be able to accurately do that.
     
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  3. NorCal

    NorCal Senior member

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    Well, I have a purebred so I'm not opposed but many purebreds are very inbred due to closed registries (among other things) which can lead to those very genetic problems you hope to avoid.

    Anyway, I'm not going to get into this.

    HS, 'doodles are OK, pretty goofy in my experience and all over the place as far as size and looks. Just go look at dogs and do a bit of reading. When it comes time to buy or adopt, think about talking to Lefty or Jan as they are both really knowledgeable and would likely know or know of breeders in your area.
     
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  4. mcbrown

    mcbrown Senior member

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    This is horrible advice. Purebred dogs - even from so-called "good" breeders - have a terrible track record of genetic abnormalities, congenital diseases, shortened lifespans and overall poor health. This is common sense stuff: the smaller the gene pool the less robust and the more prone to genetic defects. The healthiest dog you can get is the good old-fashioned mutt.

    See:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=7055788&page=1
    http://www.dogbiz.com/dogbiz-genetic-disease-guide.html
    http://www.dogandcathealth.info/purebreddogs/bbreedhome.html
    http://www.petmd.com/dog/care/evr_dg_purebred_dogs_complications

    As for "$$$$", why spend "$$$$" on a fancy breed whose grandfather is also its uncle, when you can get a great non-inbred mutt for next to nothing from a shelter?
     


  5. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    Well, there's no guarantee he'll be healthy either, but +1 to this.
     


  6. Sir Humphrey Appleby

    Sir Humphrey Appleby Senior member

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    LOL I've got an Alsador. Or as we call her a mongrel because she's a member of the family not something to use to show off how cool/rich we are.
     


  7. Philip

    Philip Senior member

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    I've never understood the interest in purbred dogs. It sounds like the only kind of thing families with coat of arms who are proud of their racial purity and inbreeding would enjoy
     


  8. lefty

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    A crossbred dog can be as large a genetic mess as a tightly bred purebred. It's not as if the mixing of a Standard Poodle with Addisons and a Golden Retriever with Dysplasia will magically make both health issues go away in their puppies. If you do look at a goldendoodle ask for health clearances on the parents.

    Do you know this mix? Why does your wife want one? List off as many characteristics in a dog as you can as well as a realistic assessment of your canine experience and I may be able to suggest a few breeds. Or go to a shelter and grab a cute dog.

    lefty
     


  9. apropos

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    Maybe not, but it'll certainly improve their chances.
     
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  10. Teger

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    i want a basset hound now :(
     


  11. JayJay

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    How is your dog doing? Has it had the surgery?
     


  12. Teger

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    she had surgery on friday, mass was actually on the vaginal wall, which is good. still waiting to get the biopsy results back. she's asleep on my foot right now snoring really, really loudly.
     


  13. lefty

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    Of developing both diseases. Hybrid vigour is a myth. The late geneticist Dr. George Padgett found more hereditary diseases in cross bred dogs than is found in the Cocker Spaniel.

    Most GD are scattershot bred and I would no sooner buy one from untested parents than I would any purebred.

    lefty
     
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  14. JayJay

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    I hope she continues to recover, nicely.
     
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  15. apropos

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    You're forgetting one important thing which makes all the difference - the relative frequency of said genetic diseases in cross-breeds vs pure-breeds. This was not addressed by Padgett in his seminal google page which the both of us are referring to. :)
     
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