Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by HansderHund, Jul 27, 2012.
OK, here is an example. Used Florsheim Imperial shell longwings. Have been on ebay for at least several months at BIN $385, OBO. These are in excellent condition, and worth perhaps $120-150 (on the high side).
These were listed at a considerably higher price, I think $229. Did not sell. Turned down an offer at $120. Went on auction and sold for $100.
NEW UNWORN shoes of same design have sold for $182.
Is this fishing for a clueless buyer? Or some other strategy that I am missing.
Just curious, but thanks for any ideas.
I'd say that first pair is worth at least $200-250
The buyer of the 2nd pair got a great deal.
Shell shoes in that good of condition re almost always worth $200+
I'm thinking he has a record of the technique working. Two items back on his feedback list was this pair listed at $425 BIN and accepted at a $350 offer.
This is making me want to buy some Florsheim Imperial shell longwings...
no - vintage used shell, even in great condition, normally won't sell at auction for more than $150 or so. I've bought and sold many pairs in great shape, always between $90 - $180 or so. I'm wearing a pair of Hanover shell PTB's in 9D in awesome shape, original everything, probably worn less than 20x total. I guarantee if I put them up in a 7 day auction they would sell for less than $200, probably within $30 of $140 either way. I paid $110.(actually, you can see them listed in my signature! - I listem them at $160 shipped here but they never sold). these are PTB's but I've found these are actually harder ro find than longwings.
actual NOS is a different story, but those are unicorns, especially in desirable models and sizes
I once sold AE Macneils in 9D, in awesome shape, and those went for $250. but recent AE will normally sell for more than vintage Florsheim/Hanover. and that was a very high price, I was surprised to get that much.
now, more to the original point, the seller probably isn't insane, just extremely patient. All it takes is one eager buyer in Japan and you can get a crazy amount.
but I think the real value is much closer to what you will get in a 10 day, clearly marked auction than a BIN listing that takes 6 months to sell.
here is a summary of recently sold Florsheim shell - avg. price (and more important median) price well below $200
I think there was a bit of a shell bubble that's finally starting to pop.
Prices were really high for a while, I remember seeing heavily used shells in 11D going for $175+, but prices are getting closer to actul value lately.
But I have the same question dhbdhdbdhdbd has, how do these people do it?
Like that guy who sells Polo stuff for at of more than retail, who posts terrible pictures of him holding the backs of jacket to make them fit. (how I hate him).
He's been relisiting some of the same jackets for years, how does he make his money?
For that matter where do those types of ebay sellers get there stuff?
Does anyone else have the problem with ebay changing the price of an item after you type it in? It does this to me constantly, and it's a pain in the ass because I don't always catch it. I clearly type $XX.99 and when I click somewhere else it changes it to $XX.00.
I don't have that problem, because I don't believe in .99 and always list in whole dollar amounts. It's a retailer game I have always personally hated and do not subscribe to myself. Like gas prices with 9/10 cents. I suppose if you're listing something for $1.00 vs. $1.99 it makes a huge difference, but $49.99 vs. $49.00 ain't gonna kill me if it's a thrift flip. Conversely, when I see "$49.99" I know it's $50, not $49. My rant / personal pet peeve - sorry!
I am liking this 10 day, no reserve, start at $.01 strategy. I had a women's Black Fleece blouse go from $39 to over $100 in the last 8 seconds.
OK now I am pissed at eBay. Had 30 items ready to go tonight - I do my listings in advance and schedule them for a Sunday night start, so I can eyeball them a few times and check for typos etc. All ready to go, paying ten cents each, and they start firing off and I am getting charged 70 cents, $1.00, $1.25 each...what the fuck? Should be ten cents! Turns out I went over my monthly 50 free item limit, which eBay doesn't let you know when you're scheduling them - that they will in fact cost more than ten cents each when they go live. Rescheduled my remaining upcoming items, called eBay, got nowhere, so guess I'll wait for the next bonus free listing period. But really - they cranked $10 in listing fees out of me before I saw it happening. Not cool.
Surely depends on the item. I had a pretty decent Pal Zileri made in Italy shirt go from $.01 to $.61 by the time it sold. I paid $.50 for the 10-day listing option, and of course eBay and Paypal took a cut - what - a penny each? Sad thing is I have a couple more Pal Zileri Italian sportcoats I might as well bury in my back yard rather than sell for zilch on eBay. I hate you Pal Zileri, whoever you are. You're no pal of mine.
If you are doing more than 50 a month, it is time to start considering a store subscription.
Ebay supplies this calculator to see if it is worth it for you. http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/Feecalculator.html
Wes, any further development in your vintage suit saga?
Not yet...the jury is still out. I imagine the paypal crew is still and can't compose themselves long enough to close the case.
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