Buying and Selling on eBay: Tips, Tricks, Problems & Questions

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by HansderHund, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. kloss

    kloss Senior member

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    I've been bidding on an .99p "no reserve" item and the seller is very obviously shill bidding. The price is still reasonable after shipping and I do want the item. But the shilling is really bugging me. Anybody have suggestions?
     
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  2. VLSI

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    gixen?
     


  3. capnwes

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    Def, contact the seller first. If you mention that you used Renovateur on the shoes, eBay will probably side with the seller. In most cases the item has to be unaltered in any way. I had a SNAD case about a month or so ago and mentioned that I was considering buying topy's for a pair of shoes with super thin soles, not disclosed in the listing. Ebay sided with the seller, saying they believe the shoes may have already been altered and were not able to be returned. In fact they had not been altered at all, but ebay stuck with their decision even after an appeal.
     


  4. concealed

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    curious what the problem here is. you are getting the item you want at a price you want.

    second, please instruct me as to how you know the seller is shill bidding? seems almost impossible to tell on an online auction. do you tend to be a paranoid person in general? walls closing in? zombie apocalypse?
     


  5. Snoogz

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    How would u describe this?
    Club collar with throat latch?
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  6. Snoogz

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    thanks!
     


  7. kloss

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    I already set up a snipe. But he is shill bidding against his own bids.
     


  8. kloss

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    On day one, the seller had a 3 feedback account bidding on 8 different coats from that same seller. The problem is, the coat that I bid on had measurements that were nowhere near that of his other items. I checked the measurements on all of his items. I checked a few days later and that account went from 8 bids to 60 bids...simply to hide the fact that the shill had a 100% bid history with one seller.
    There was also another bidder who bid on 256 items in the last 30 days with 24 retractions. Again, high number of bids to hide the bid % history. There is also a third, similar bidder. I checked his other auctions and a few of them (just the ones that look like they won't sell well due to sizing or style) had obvious shills as well.

    Why do you want to know? Planning on improving your shills? :p

    "curious what the problem here is."
    You definitely sound like the sort of guy who would shill. (yes, i'm slightly paranoid. but mostly just observant)
     
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  9. Brianpore

    Brianpore B&S (BS) ambassador-in-chief

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    Who cares if he is shill bidding. Bid what you want and then leave it, use gixan or just go find it from someone else. Not sure what complaining about it here is going to do. If are you really really annoyed, complain to ebay.
     


  10. concealed

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    nope you sound paranoid. do you really think no one else is interested in the same goods? newbie ebay buyers tend to act in a similar way. also eBay is pretty good at protecting against shill bidders. IP address checks n so forth.
     


  11. Brianpore

    Brianpore B&S (BS) ambassador-in-chief

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  12. kloss

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    what about the bidder that bid on 8 coats from the same seller is vastly different sizes? and a few days later he went from one hundred percent activitywith one seller to about two percent? do newbies typically do that? you are willfully blind . or trolling.and ip checks are incredibly easy to get around
     


  13. concealed

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    how can you tell it was the same bidder?
     


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    Furthermore, the assumption that an individual buyer wouldn't pursue different size jackets is exceptionally naive. Suited, in the thrifting thread, picked up 15 sport coats from one seller, all for cheap (not because they fit him), because the seller didn't know what he had. And perhaps he bid multiple times on some of them to ward off other potential bidders? Who knows.
    Either way, it's very hard to determine if a seller is shill bidding, but trusting the system and the free market economics, determine what you are willing to pay and try and snipe it. If you pay less, you have a small bonus; if you pay that price, you paid the price you were willing to pay.
     


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