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Buyer beware: Sartorio

FloreatDomus

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I just received two Sartorio sport coats from Yoox that looked like very nice summer jackets. They're not. For one thing, they are laughably short -- I know Sartorio make a short coat, but these two barely cover the top of my back pockets. The sleeves don't go much beyond the middle of my forearm; I'd give them 24 inches at most. Neither jacket is marked as an S (or C).

But never mind the awful fit: both jackets are fused. And neither shows a lick of handwork on lapels or seams, except on the small patches of lining protecting the vent openings. Plastic buttons to boot, and no sign of the Neapolitan crow's foot stitch.

Just awful. Way to dilute a brand. (Yeah, I realize I was buying them as a bargain on Yoox. But still. What I got wasn't worth what I paid for them, and certainly wouldn't have been worth the original asking price.)
 

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I have also had similar disappointing experiences with Sartorio. One was a linen/silk sport coat that was either fused or half-canvassed (I cannot differentiate) and was a true 3-button coat (not a 3-roll-2). Another was a 50% wool 50% linen suit yet was very heavy and the coat was fully lined. I have pure wool suits that are much more appropriate for summer. The coat of suit was fully canvassed for what it's worth. Both went back to yoox.
 

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Yuck. I adore Sartorio (my Sartorio suit is my favourite suit, and my Sartorio sports jacket is my favourite sports jacket) but I must admit the stuff I saw on Yoox didn't look the same calibre at all and I didn't buy anything through them. I wonder what the story is there?
 

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Same here -- I have a suit from the Attolini days which is great (though it, too, has machine-made buttonholes) and not from Yoox, as well as a Kiton-era sports jacket and a winter coat, both of which are largely handmade, among my favourites, and were bought through Yoox. The pictures look like crap half the time on that website....

The fusing is what really shocked me. Some makers are known to finish garments to a lower standard for Yoox sales (the Castangia buttonholes, usually handcrafted works of art, are apparently machine-made on the suits for sale online. But these coats really didn't look or feel like garments made in the Kiton factory -- they compared very unfavorably to the (disappointing) stuff I saw at the Cantarelli factory store in Arezzo a while ago!
 

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Of course I will. That won't stop me complaining about the decline and fall of Sartorio, though!
 

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I just bought this Sartorio suit but having buyer's remorse; thankfully I am able to return.
Will it have fused construction?
I haven't received it yet.
 

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I just bought this Sartorio suit but having buyer's remorse; thankfully I am able to return.
Will it have fused construction?
I haven't received it yet.
I don’t know and I’m not even familiar with the merchant.

however, if the pics are from their website, that alone is enough to steer me away. The fit looks like shit, and that’s assuming effort went into making it look attractive.

return and move on.
 

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I don’t know and I’m not even familiar with the merchant.

however, if the pics are from their website, that alone is enough to steer me away. The fit looks like shit, and that’s assuming effort went into making it look attractive.

return and move on.
seller is Sartoriale. I thought they are known around here right?
 

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Sartorio doesn't produce garments with fused construction. I've yet to see evidence otherwise. For example, the I have is full canvassed. This is a weird suit though... triple patch pockets, and the waist is bubbly.
 

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Sartorio doesn't produce garments with fused construction. I've yet to see evidence otherwise. For example, the I have is full canvassed. This is a weird suit though... triple patch pockets, and the waist is bubbly.
the seller confirmed it is full canvassed.
The bubbly look and poor fit are due to 100% linen.
I guess I will try it on and see how it looks.
The pants are a little odd too - ghurka style.
 

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the seller confirmed it is full canvassed.
The bubbly look and poor fit are due to 100% linen.
I guess I will try it on and see how it looks.
The pants are a little odd too - ghurka style.
Triple patch pockets on a suit is very odd. Nothing wrong with a ghurka waistband, but it's a bit on the casual side. Would not recommend this suit unless you already have a wide rotation of suits already.
 

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Triple patch pockets on a suit is very odd. Nothing wrong with a ghurka waistband, but it's a bit on the casual side. Would not recommend this suit unless you already have a wide rotation of suits already.
I bought it specifically as a summer suit that could be worn professionally in hot weather.
I have other seasons covered with other suits, and a bunch of sport coats ranging from somewhat formal to casual, so I wanted a full suit for the summer.

I hear you regarding triple patch. I thought it was kind of interesting, but I guess we’ll see how it wears.
 

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