Buttondown Shirt Appreciation: Joe's Tailor (Singapore) Thomas Mason Silverline

[FreedBird]

Originally Posted by Cary Grant

Heavens why- I'd guess better than 1/2 my MTM shirts are three button barrels. Love them.

I could at least understand them more with a large spread collar, although I wouldn't approve of them. With a button down collar its just mixing two things that don't match.

 

[josepidal]

Look, some of these comments aren't very helpful in that I'm not absolutely sure what you mean. Regarding the collars, do you mean that you think the points are too long? Or do you mean that you think they're too stiff for buttondowns?

 

[Manton]

To my eye, they are bad because:

1) No tie space.

2) No roll.

3) Too widespread.

4) Edge stitching.

#1 is the biggest problem, but they are all problems.

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by josepidal

Look, some of these comments aren't very helpful in that I'm not absolutely sure what you mean. Regarding the collars, do you mean that you think the points are too long? Or do you mean that you think they're too stiff for buttondowns?
There isn't enough tie space, in fact there seems to be negative tie space. That is not a good look on a buttondown. Check out the one Carl made for Manton, or Mafoo's from Brooks.

 

[Manton]

Here's how I like mine to look:

 

[kolecho]

OP,

Put a shirt on and post some pics. Besides some questionable details (3 button cuff, no tie space, edge stitching etc), I hope the fit is decent. Sometimes tie space may not appear on a folded shirt but comes out when you have the shirt on with a tie. The seemingly long points may also be justified, and even the lack of collar roll may be reversed when you have the shirt on.

 

[dl20]

Why would you ask them to not put interlining in the collars?

dl

 

[crazyquik]

Originally Posted by dl20

Why would you ask them to not put interlining in the collars?

dl

Makes a better roll with the BD.

I am interested to see one of these on, with a tie. I prefer BD's with longest collar points (I forgot how long the last ones I had made were, 3 5/8ths maybe?)

 

[Get Smart]

Originally Posted by Manton

To my eye, they are bad because:

1) No tie space.

2) No roll.

3) Too widespread.

4) Edge stitching.

#1 is the biggest problem, but they are all problems.

5) collar button looks too close to the tip, looks awkward

 

[josepidal]

There is actually tie space; I thought it was visible from the last photo.

Regarding roll, how exactly do you describe this and how do you see if a shirt collar has it?

 

[kolecho]

Put one of the shirts on and post a pic, damn it. No words can help you.

Psst... Joe is not a very good tailor or shirtmaker. Nice guy, yes.

 

[Cary Grant]

Originally Posted by iammatt

Well, the biggest problem is the atrocious collars. The cuffs can always be hidden under a sweater or jacket.

I'll grant you that aside gfrom the two blues and the pink they are awfully pastel but we don't have to wear them.

 

[coogie]

these shirts are horrible. the collars and cuffs are just bad

how much did you pay?

 

[Christofuh]

Originally Posted by FreedBird

Triple barrel cuffs? Seems a questionable choice.

+1

I've got them on Turnbull & Asser shirts; they're a major PIA

Not down with collars either. I think you could drive an Escalade thru that spread

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by Manton

Here's how I like mine to look:

Dear Zeus, are you wearing pants in that pic?

- B