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  1. RJman

    RJman Posse Member Dubiously Honored

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    There is a definite mold of heteronormalcy that I often find quite hard to deal with even as a straight man so I know where why and rach are coming from. Scripted scenarios for interraction and normative weight can put a strain on my tolerance of "the other" as surely as say, an unkempt mollusk.

    Welcome the Mollusk, in all its endearments.
     


  2. rach2jlc

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    Welcome the Mollusk, in all its endearments.
    It has but one endearment, mon ami, which is that about halfway along its mortal path, it will give up and stop working entirely.
     


  3. edmorel

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    Realistically they don't, but necessarily they do. I think my main issue with gays at the moment is that they're...well, gay. Homosexuality isn't a big issue to me and doesn't carry to same societal connotation that 'gay' does. When people think of 'gay' they think of George Michael, Richard Simmons, effeminacy, and lisps. They're generalizations that don't bother me personally, but because other people may be bothered by gays and their conceptualization of what 'gay' is it does create issues within larger social circles and ultimately social dynamics. Homosexual couples are not something that's accepted (see bans on homosexual marriage under the guise of 'marriage' semantics). Most people will say they don't care about homosexuals and treat them like anyone else, but the reality is that there's a deeply-ingrained aversion that most people can't shake. It's the social version of NIMBY, if you will.

    I personally think the gay community shoots themselves in the foot with pride meetings, parades, and such. The rampant hedonism and constant overt sexuality is a big turn-off to the gay community for me personally, but my main reason for generally only dating women is strictly biological.


    Dude you sound like a self hating ghey.

    Grow a pair of balls and forget what society's concept of gay is. Be who you are. Saying the gay community shoots itself in the foot with parades and stuff is rather retarded. Do you always check with society before you do anything? You are like that dad in American Beauty.
     


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    Just SEE who gives you a better blowjob.


    That is what trannies are for, all the benefits of a man, but packaged like a woman [​IMG]
     


  5. RJman

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    It has but one endearment, mon ami, which is that about halfway along its mortal path, it will give up and stop working entirely.
    Long live the Tomatoes of Nubility!
    Dude you sound like a self hating ghey.
    I thought that's what teh g33k sounded like.
     


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    Thomas Senior member

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    That is what trannies are for, all the benefits of a man, but packaged like a woman [​IMG]

    So you mean the next time I need two boards nailed together or a jar opened, I should call the tranny-handyman?
     


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    So you mean the next time I need two boards nailed together, a jar opened and a mind blowing blow job, I should call the tranny-handyman?

    Yes.
     


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    Long live the Tomatoes of Nubility!
    I've long applauded the ToN's of Anthony Quinn, who fathered daughter Antonia when he was nearly 70. You go, Tony. Rawwwr.
     


  9. Etienne

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    There is a definite mould of heteronormalcy that I often find quite hard to deal with even as a straight man so I know where why and rach are coming from.
    In my experience, women are more determined by that mould. But still, they can be enlightened.
    no such thing as bi in my opinion. just an uncommitted ghey (nothing wrong with ghey).
    That's wrong. Ultimately, it's a matter of definition, though. Many gays don't like to acknowledge bisexuality, and they have a point. Indeed, identifying as "bi" is often used by some closeted gays. And you can also say that militant bisexuals have an annoying superiority complex ("I don't care about the sex, I love the person" is a quote that is just a way to show everybody else how limited they are). Some gays even resent the free-riding lifestyle that bis can enjoy (enjoying heterosexual normalcy while enjoying the benefits of a gay alternative lifestyle when they want). None of those reasons strike me as sufficient to deny reality though. There are "bisexuals" out there, by any reasonable definition of the term.
     


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    Edmorel and Rach are making a lot of sense on this thread.

    Personally, I wonder about how important it is to decide whether we are straight or gay or bi. I don't a relationship with a category. I have a relationship with an actual person. When you find someone you feel truly close to with, really desire, and trust, you'll know. It must be hard to feel that your affective life and your sex life are not in synch.
     


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    Edmorel and Rach are making a lot of sense on this thread.

    Personally, I wonder about how important it is to decide whether we are straight or gay or bi. I don't a relationship with a category. I have a relationship with an actual person. When you find someone you feel truly close to with, really desire, and trust, you'll know. It must be hard to feel that your affective life and your sex life are not in synch.


    But..but.. there often is a pattern to it.
     


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    But..but.. there often is a pattern to it.
    Patterns exist; they are simply the way the mind makes sense of data and organizes the world. Social or discursive categories that have inherent weights and inclusions and exclusions, though, are a different animal entirely.
     


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    But..but.. there often is a pattern to it.

    Dating's not a crime. We don't care about modus operandi, as the Hardy Boys called it.
     


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    my best friend has been my best friend since the age of 4 and is attractive and we share a sense of humor that's very similar but i don;t want my dick anywhere near him. i don't buy the whole falling in live with a person thing.

    Edmorel and Rach are making a lot of sense on this thread.

    Personally, I wonder about how important it is to decide whether we are straight or gay or bi. I don't a relationship with a category. I have a relationship with an actual person. When you find someone you feel truly close to with, really desire, and trust, you'll know. It must be hard to feel that your affective life and your sex life are not in synch.
     


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    Patterns exist; they are simply the way the mind makes sense of data and organizes the world. Social or discursive categories that have inherent weights and inclusions and exclusions, though, are a different animal entirely.
    I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. Assuming you are approaching the world with a Foucauldian/post-structuralist point of view, you should know that you cannot escape discourse. There is no authenticity/meaning/logos.

    Very interesting thread on the whole. Thanks to why for starting it.
     


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