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Bruno Magli or Allen Edmunds?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by elegance007, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. capua

    capua Senior member

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    I have owned the Bruno Magli Maiocos for about 2.5 years and I also own two pairs of Allen Edmonds. The Maiocos are nowhere close to the Allen Edmonds in terms of quality.

    At first the leather on the Maiocos looked nice. But after several wears I realized that the Nappa leather is corrected. The Maiocos therefore have an ugly gloss over them and do not take a shine after polishing. They look brutal when placed beside any of my black calf full grain leather shoes. Also, the soles on the shoes appear to be made out of something resembling card board.

    I have been reading this forum for about 3 years now, and the Maiocos are the only shoes that I regret buying. I have never been disappointed with Allend Edmonds. The 'stiff' leather means that the leather has not been corrected, i.e. buffed down and thinned out. After a couple wears and some conditioning the leather will become more supple.
     
  2. elegance007

    elegance007 Well-Known Member

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    Do you work for Allen Edmonds?

    Buy the hard stuff and it will turn into the soft stuff?
     
  3. RDiaz

    RDiaz Senior member

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    Magnanni has several quality levels. Some high end models actually use quite nice leather. Too bad they use blake/bologna construction...

    But now some models on their site seem to be goodyear welted and some even have hidden channel stitching, something they didn't do before, like this one:

    http://www.magnanni.com/products/97-faro-burgundy.aspx

    Also, their "seleccion" line was goodyear welted before iirc, but now it seems to be norvegesse:

    http://www.magnanni.com/products/85-medina-cognac.aspx
     
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  4. capua

    capua Senior member

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    Why do you think that softness is the only criteria for quality? The Bruno Maglis feel so soft because they are made out of very thin low quality corrected grain leather. It's not just Allen Edmonds that are 'hard' either. My Crockett and Jones, Cheaneys and Barkers all have much thicker leather than the Bruno Maglis which I no longer wear. Maybe everyone here is telling you not to buy Bruno Maglis for a reason.
     
  5. Joker Man

    Joker Man Senior member

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    The thinner leather is full grain calfskin. It's thinner because its taken from an unsplit younger animal's hide and is by no means "corrected". If you don't like more modern and more comfortable expensive Italian shoes than buy the A&E etc. I wear all different types but the Italian shoes are of a high quality.
     
  6. sturm07

    sturm07 Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to shoes, it is best if you try them on. It might look awesome and well constructed but, they might not have the right structure that fit your feet. Make you decision after trying them on. Both brand are on the average level pricing (good for people on a budget or young professional looking for quality goods for a fair price). You can also take into account that Allen Edmonds offer a recrafting service for your shoes which can be pretty interesting for someone that like a specific model and can't find them in-store anymore.
     
  7. sambb

    sambb Active Member

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    People here seem a little snobbish - if you wear brunos or magnanni's you will have better shoes than 95% of the people out there. Same with AE. It is splitting hairs...
    All are nice. Some better than others. Who cares. It is all top 5%.
     
  8. skinny

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    I have tried both and personally find that the BMs look more stylish and modern, while the AEs more traditional. The build quality seems better on the AEs, and probably is. So it comes down to what you want. No sense in getting a shoe you don't like as much just because the build quality is better IMHO. So get the shoe you like most, and don't fret too much over build quality. Neither shoe will "fall apart". This is styleforum, no? :)
     
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  9. reidrothchild

    reidrothchild Senior member

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    Yeah, I've seen that they appear to have some more expensive models on their site in the past. I was just speaking about the shoes I've seen in person that retail for $250-300. The more expensive models may well be nicer, but I'd put Magnanni's $300 shoes below AE's $300 shoes.

    Also, I agree wholeheartedly with Skinny's above post. OP, it seems like you just don't like the look of the AEs. I think there are better quality shoes that also look sleek at the BM price point, but it doesn't sound like you should buy AE. Superior build quality won't make you like the way they look.
     
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  10. Klobber

    Klobber Senior member

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    Correct, but whats then the point of Styleforum in that case since what you say makes rational sense?

    You have underestimated the guilty pleasure of pursuing that extra 5 - 20% jump in quality / style . Why drive a Porsche if instead you can drive a Rolls Royce? If that guilty pleasure makes us snobs, so be it ;)
     
  11. Joker Man

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    These items are common where I live but I'd say that a $300 shoe is like 1% or less for the entire US pop. And while those really expensive shoes like C&J, Churches, Ferrigamo etc.may be firly common in Manhattan or the wealthier surburbs, they are virtually unheard of in a very large part of the country. Even those expensive cowboy boots made in Texas are not worn by very many people there. An average priced shoe (or sportshoe) may be like $80 in the US and the average family may spend $1500 or so per year on clothes. There are probably only 1% or less who buy at places like Paul Stuart or Saks etc or wear C&J or Lobbs.
     
  12. elegance007

    elegance007 Well-Known Member

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    I see AE everywhere. The salespeople in department stores wear them and I doubt they are in the top 5% income bracket.

    I assumed $300 was the entry point, not the top 5%.
     
  13. Breedlove

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    Just so you know, top 1% of the US income bracket = annual household income of at least $350,000.
    $300 dollar shoes are chump change at this income level.
     
  14. Joker Man

    Joker Man Senior member

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    That's household income and after taxes are paid it's likely 1/2 of that. A married couple with decent jobs can make that. Unlike tweens and 20 somethings, adults have a lot of expenses and at this level of income(say $200k after taxes) they are not spending $20k a year on clothes so a $300 pair of shoes is about right at this level. It's the people in the 1/10 of a % who buy all of the really high priced stuff. People with an income of $50k a year spend about a $1k a yr. on clothes unless they live in a free apt. in mommy's basement.
     
  15. Joker Man

    Joker Man Senior member

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    That top 1% category is somewhat misleading and needs to be broken down more because it would include 3m people and they could range from the well off to the super rich. If even 1/10 of that 1 % were in the very wealthy category then that would bring the average income way up. If you lived on a street with 10 people where 9 of them made $200k and one made $3m the average would be $400k and it would be misleading. And yes, those numbers I gave would fit into a typical area and range of incomes for that area. If you want to see actual incomes for wealthier areas then just look them up.
    http://www.city-data.com/city/Greenwich-Connecticut.html
     
  16. RDiaz

    RDiaz Senior member

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    I make much, much less than $50k and I don't see how $300 shoes are out of reach. You just can't have a pair per month or get all your pairs in that price range, that's all. Sometimes I'll just get a $300 pair of shoes and won't spend much more in clothes in 2-3 months. But I'd rather have that pair than some $80 piece of crap.
     
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  17. madeinitaly

    madeinitaly Active Member

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    and it is not an irrilevant particular.
     
  18. PhiPsi32

    PhiPsi32 Senior member

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    I agree.
     
  19. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    while its all about compromises, at way less than 50k, $300 shoes are certainly an indulgence.
     
  20. Breedlove

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    Same
     

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