Brown wingtips

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by linux_pro, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. marc37

    marc37 Senior member

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    l never knew Grenson made bespoke shoes.
     


  2. Charley

    Charley Senior member

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    Gr8 looking shoes. l love the double sole and the revealed stitching on top of the sole.

    l like my wingtips to be sturdy as well. Good choice.
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    I'm sorry to disagree with one of my favorite shoe experts.

    A shoe does not have to look like a truck in order to carry some "decoration." Why is it necessary to advertise a substantial sole? The artfulness in shoes is to hide the capabilities while providing a beautiful and stylishl product.

    Those Aldens are as substantial as tanks - and advertise it. I just dont care for the wider sole - and it is unnecessary for the shoe to perform its function.
     


  3. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    I've got an Alden like Kai pictured, save it's in black cordo.  Like it a lot.

    I also have a C&J something like what Linux Pro 1st posted from Pediwear site.

    YOu couldn't go wrong, LP, with a pair of sturdy (as opposed to "clunky" -- and adjective I first employed toward Aldens) wingtips in Seattle, now, could you?

    Edit:

    just saw the post above on why "advertise" the shoo being substantial. I say, in the case of the wingtip, because it's origins are stout shoe of sport for weather. Now while the style of shoo has been gentrified, it's aesthetically pleasing to see some of its neotonistic characteristics revealed. (convincing?). Plus the shoe looks great with heavy flannels and whipcords and calv. twill and tweed and whanot.

    Horace (the Rubber Sole Man)
     


  4. linux_pro

    linux_pro Senior member

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    Durability (sturdiness) will be of pretty high importance to me, because the climate here is rather crappy, it rains all the time.

    I'm torn between a pair of Aldens, C&J's, Marteganis or Gravatis. I feel stuck. Ugh.

    I was at plal.com, and looking at the C&J's. I liked both the Cardiff, Clifford and Finsbury. Tough choice. I have no idea what separates them, or which would be better, or how they might fit. I hate buying shoes online, but here in Seattle we have very little selection.

    Are open-lace better than close-lace?
     


  5. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    Not sure of terms, open and closed laces?

    Sort of like derby and balmoral? If so, I like the open for wingtips that you showed us, and the closed for something like a captoe black Brooks Brooks Peal dresss shoe.

    I know that there were several discussions about this previously, and Old Manton and others made some helpful observations and suggestions.
     


  6. marc37

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    Only a true shooman wears welted leather sole shoos only. [​IMG]
     


  7. AlanC

    AlanC Minister of Trad

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    Yes, in Kai's post above the Aldens have open lacing and the Vass have closed lacing. In an earlier thread Manton maintained that shoes with open lacing are inappropriate with a suit. (But I'm not convinced. Shhhh...)
     


  8. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    (Horace @ Mar. 06 2005,04:02) Not sure of terms, open and closed laces? Sort of like derby and balmoral? Â If so, I like the open for wingtips that you showed us, and the closed for something like a captoe black Brooks Brooks Peal dresss shoe.
    Yes, in Kai's post above the Aldens have open lacing and the Vass have closed lacing. In an earlier thread Manton maintained that shoes with open lacing are inappropriate with a suit. (But I'm not convinced. Shhhh...)
    Neither am I Alan, but I like the rule, can adduce some reason for it, and would like to follow it, despite not doings so.
     


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    [​IMG] Wow. WOW. Those are some shoes... -s
     


  10. NoVaguy

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    I think the Downing is still available at Ben Silver, although only in burgundy.  Link to the Downing. Edit: It's also available in tan. Sorry about that. Downing in Tan
     


  11. Lord Foppington

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    I love the stout, or clunky, or big-boned, or substantial look of the Alden too, and like the blucher look. If a wingtip starts to get too sleek or refined, I feel like a mincing capon.

    But then I'm not a businessman and don't wear suits in the daytime.
     


  12. arenn1

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    Kai, that Alden long wing is spectacular. I've seen it in in their normal colors, but not in the whiskey. Impressive. I assume the "Alden Fan" collection is exclusive to Alden of Carmel? It sometimes seems like a majority of the shoes Alden sells are some type of "only available behind the counter" specials that aren't in the catalog. It's almost like trying to score an illegal substance to find out about them. Does anyone actually have a definitive list of all the shoes Alden makes? There are a number of great shoes I wish they would make more generally available. How can you call yourself a "bootmaker" if there aren't even any boots listed in your catalog, for example? (It would also be extremely helpful if they included a price list).

    BTW: I just special ordered some Alden accessories and the sales person told me that there is a new catalog due out "any day". It was supposed to be out before Christmas but there were a number of delays.
     


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    I got an Alden catalogue in yesterday's mail, from Alden of Carmel, and it does not include their "fan" shoes or boots. Only the regular lines. Don't know where to get a comprehensive list.
     


  14. Bic Pentameter

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    I have the Alden Fan shoes, and like them very much. If you are looking for something more sleek, how about the Alfred Sargent Burlington? http://www.pediwear.co.uk/detail.php?stock_ID=459 I polished mine with cordovan shoe polish and it looks fabulous. Bic
     


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    (Horace @ Mar. 05 2005,22:28) Horace (the Rubber Sole Man)
    Only a true shooman wears welted leather sole shoos only. [​IMG]
    Shooman, If I have anything to do with it, my loftiest ambition will be to displace you from the heights of Shoodom. Your thoughts on the commando sole in rubber whichis placed upon a leather welted sole? Horace The Rubbur Sole Man.
     


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