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Brown Shoes/Black Suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Sartorially Challenged, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Senior member

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    Is it wrong to wear brown shoes with black suits?

    Or is it okay so long as the belt tone matches?
     
  2. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

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    I have worn brown antiqued shoes with black suits and it was quite nice, drawing compliments from Wilkes Bashford employees, and others.
     
  3. Nick M

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    Much more preferable is brown shoes with a charcoal gray suit.
     
  4. The False Prophet

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    I suggest that it can be achieved, but only if the shoes are quite dark, and the suit has a finish such that it appears slightly grey or blue in the light...
     
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    A joke is about to appear all over the Internet about you and Chuck Norris. It will involve a spinning backfist, a black suit, brown shoes, and death.[​IMG]
     
  6. Duveen

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    For some reason the thread title made me think:
    "Fat guy’s talking to me trying to steal my blues"

    Not very cool, I know. But neither are brown shoes and a black suit.
     
  7. Teacher

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    It can be a very cool look indeed, but not one for the traditional business setting. The look is best effected with darker brown shoes and a black suit that isn't too shiny. DON'T wear a brown tie with the ensemble.
     
  8. Tomasso

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    Chocolate brown suede shoes with a black flannel suit. I do that.
     
  9. Ambulance Chaser

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    Who would wear such an outfit? A waiter at a bistro in the French countryside?
     
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    Who would wear such an outfit? A waiter at a bistro in the French countryside?

    Haha.[​IMG] Where is Ernest when you need him?
     
  11. Lucky Strike

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    Chocolate brown suede shoes with a black flannel suit. I do that.

    Well, call me farmer, but so do I, only with heavily antiqued brown shoes and a black narrow-wale corduroy suit.
     
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    Well, call me farmer, but so do I, only with heavily antiqued brown shoes and a black narrow-wale corduroy suit.
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Senior member

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    So "No" is generally the answer.
     
  14. Teacher

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    How do you come to that conclusion? I count five definite yeas and three definite nays. The thing is to examine (1.) the situation (not for serious business but cool for more casual settings); (2.) the fabric (courser or heavier would be better); (3.) the shade of brown (some will work and some won't); and (4.) your own taste.
     
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    I agree with Teacher - don't think that there is a pure consensus here. The first thing I'd say, though, is stay away from black suits in general. This will save you trouble, as the garment is itself a mongrel when not formalwear, per Manton. Though as clubwear/nightlife gear it can do quite well, I find that it works best when you have the right coloring. For me (pale skin, light hair) it is too abrupt a look even for the club scene. If you do wear a black suit (as Teacher points out, it's all a matter of taste anyhow), use texture and tone as your guide. I can see a black flannel suit with dark brown suede (per Tomasso and others) coming off nicely. In fact, the flannel fabric in general may invite more color variation because it won't be such a sink for light. Flannels are also more casual, giving you more chance to play around with other concepts. I have a harder time imagining a harder-finish worsted black suit looking good with most brown/burgundy shoes. If it is cut in a very stylish manner, maybe a pair of dark brown cuban-heel boots or some other very conscious choice. But the shoe would need to be very thoughtfully chosen to make the look work. I'd almost rather see a black suit with cherry-red cowboy boots, bright blue shoes or even bone suede shoes/boots (http://www.johnlobbltd.co.uk/catalog...o/hiloboot.htm or http://www.sierratradingpost.com/i/F...oes++(For+Men)) for the shock value. Where the look almost definitely fails is when a business-cut black suit is combined with unimpressive, less-than-distinctive brown shoes.
     
  16. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Senior member

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    Too late.
     
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    The first thing I'd say, though, is stay away from black suits in general. This will save you trouble, as the garment is itself a mongrel when not formalwear, per Manton. Though as clubwear/nightlife gear it can do quite well, I find that it works best when you have the right coloring. For me (pale skin, light hair) it is too abrupt a look even for the club scene.

    I have to say, I'd find it hard to reconcile the casual nature of flannel with the severity of black. Sort of like how I feel about black suede ... just seems wrong.
     
  18. Duveen

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    I have to say, I'd find it hard to reconcile the casual nature of flannel with the severity of black. Sort of like how I feel about black suede ... just seems wrong.

    You're right there. Most 'black' flannel I've seen is more reminiscent of a dark charcoal.

    I have been won over by the Mantonian 'no non-formal black' theory. I still do ocassionally wear my black odd trousers with a charcoal sweater and black shoes, but in general I stick to the more traditional colors. That said, I do wear navy trousers despite exhortations that they are too 'suit-like'.
     
  19. Duveen

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    Too late.

    I understand that you've already got the suit, but you've been mum on its purpose and style cues, limiting our ability to be helpful.

    It would be useful to know the cut (traditional business-style or slim) and the purpose of wearing (business vs. casual/nightlife).

    I've given my .02 and tried to be helpful, sorry to hear you didn't find the comments useful.
     
  20. Sartorially Challenged

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    I *did* find the comments useful, and thank you for the advice.
     

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