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Brooks Brothers vs. Hugo Boss Tuxedo. Need advice!!!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by cogitoergosum81, Mar 22, 2009.

  1. cogitoergosum81

    cogitoergosum81 Member

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    Hi all, I am asking for your expert advice on purchasing my first tuxedo for my wedding. I am considering the classic tux as defined in http://www.blacktieguide.com/Classic...nts/Jacket.htm. The tux is single breasted with peak lapels and single button. Nordstroms sells a black labelled Hugo Boss tux for $795 and made in Bulgaria. The Brooks Brothers equivalent http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatP...lt_color=Black is for almost the same price and made in the USA. Which one do you think constitutes a better overall tuxedo? BTW, I wear 42r, 34x32 pants and with broad shoulders and athletic chest. Either way, I am considering getting the wing-tipped shirt from BB in addition to the backless waistcoat and matching bow tie. Thanks [​IMG]
     
  2. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Senior member

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    I have the Brooks Brothers tux and am quite happy with it. Watch out for 1818 sales, I got mine for $500.
     
  3. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    Hi all,
    I am considering getting the wing-tipped shit
    Thanks [​IMG]

    Interesting. I think you mean the BB wing collar. "Wing tip shit" usually refers to poorly made brogued shoes.[​IMG]
    I would go with the BB. I believe it is made by Southwick.
     
  4. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Senior member

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    Interesting. I think you mean the BB wing collar. "Wing tip shit" usually refers to poorly made brogued shoes.[​IMG]
    I would go with the BB. I believe it is made by Southwick.


    You actually read his post?

    It's called Peak Lapel, cogitoergosum81. By all means, please go into Brooks Brothers and ask for that "Wing tip shit" tux. [​IMG]
     
  5. cogitoergosum81

    cogitoergosum81 Member

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    It's alarming how a missing "r" can get people so excited. I was expecting a thorough comparison of the 2 brands. Instead, I got some immature comments and some coming from a member with an avatar of 2 girls making out.
     
  6. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Senior member

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    It's alarming how a missing "r" can get people so excited. I was expecting a thorough comparison of the 2 brands. Instead, I got some immature comments and some coming from a member with an avatar of 2 girls making out.
    Awww, baby get his feelings hurt? Be a man, pussy! It's called humor, if you can't take it, leave! I, nor anyone else here, has the inclination to deal with little bitches. I told you what to buy. Hugo Boss is crap. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION until you know enough to speak man-talk. Read this recent thread, this guy grew a set quickly, can you?
     
  7. rioni

    rioni Senior member

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    We need more members with avatars featuring hot chicks making out
     
  8. cogitoergosum81

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    Awww, baby get his feelings hurt? Be a man, pussy! It's called humor, if you can't take it, leave! I, nor anyone else here, has the inclination to deal with little bitches.

    I told you what to buy. Hugo Boss is crap. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION until you know enough to speak man-talk.

    Read this recent thread, this guy grew a set quickly, can you?


    I wonder what kind of man would use such vocabulary as "pussy" and "bitch" online. It is most certainly the typical cyberweb macho that spends his time ridiculing and insulting others to feel better about his pathetic life. Sad but true...
     
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    holymadness Senior member

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    Hey self-righteous asshole, go do some reading instead of asking to be spoonfed all the answers in life, you uppity prick.
     
  10. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Senior member

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    Hey self-righteous asshole, go do some reading instead of asking to be spoonfed all the answers in life, you uppity prick.

    Who here is with me on grabbing some torches and pitch forks and taking out some sweet mob justice on Maxim for bringing these morons to our site?
     
  11. rioni

    rioni Senior member

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    No shit? Is that the reason for the thousands of idiots over the last month? Was the sf reference online or in the mag?

    Who here is with me on grabbing some torches and pitch forks and taking out some sweet mob justice on Maxim for bringing these morons to our site?
     
  12. xpress

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    DVICE:

    BOSS makes a great Tux.
    They essentially have their tuxedo's set up to fit identically to the suits... So if you like a certain cut, they have a tuxedo for it.

    Materials were above average for the BOSS black label.... Fits (as per usual for boss) is excellent, and construction is above average.

    I would base decision on fit... the BB might have to be taken in considerably more then the BOSS... which should be considered

    (A tux is something that I'm assuming wont be worn daily... Hence build quality should be considered, but not prioritized so much... So ignore the guys who tell you boss makes inferior product... they have no clue)
     
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    Sinatra would have never worn Boss.
    ADVICE: BOSS makes a great Tux. They essentially have their tuxedo's set up to fit identically to the suits... So if you like a certain cut, they have a tuxedo for it. Materials were above average for the BOSS black label.... Fits (as per usual for boss) is excellent, and construction is above average. I would base decision on fit... the BB might have to be taken in considerably more then the BOSS... which should be considered (A tux is something that I'm assuming wont be worn daily... Hence build quality should be considered, but not prioritized so much... So ignore the guys who tell you boss makes inferior product... they have no clue)
     
  14. cogitoergosum81

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    ADVICE:

    BOSS makes a great Tux.
    They essentially have their tuxedo's set up to fit identically to the suits... So if you like a certain cut, they have a tuxedo for it.

    Materials were above average for the BOSS black label.... Fits (as per usual for boss) is excellent, and construction is above average.

    I would base decision on fit... the BB might have to be taken in considerably more then the BOSS... which should be considered

    (A tux is something that I'm assuming wont be worn daily... Hence build quality should be considered, but not prioritized so much... So ignore the guys who tell you boss makes inferior product... they have no clue)

    Thank you xpress for the constructive comments. I agree with you that fit is of utmost importance when it comes to formal attire. I have a Boss red label suit that fits very well. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a tuxedo from the same line.
     
  15. Xiaogou

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    Definitely search. Your search will lead you to the conclusion that BB is better all the way around compared to Boss.
     
  16. Bounder

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    Cogito,

    The BB tuxedo is going to be better by just about every possible standard than the Hugo Boss. Whatever tuxedo you get, plan on spending another $100 or so to have it altered to fit you properly.

    If you are price conscious, there are some great deals to be had on e-bay. Normally, I'm not a fan of buying clothes, either used or NWT on-line. For one thing, you have to be an educated consumer and really know what you are looking for. For another, used clothes often have "wear issues" that are not at all apparent until you get them or even until you wear them.

    Neither of these is really true with formal wear, though. You can become a very educated consumer by spending forty-five minutes or so on blacktieguide.com. It seems you've already done this.

    The "wear issues" usually don't apply to formal wear as when you're buying a used tuxedo, the odds are that it really has been worn only a few times -- a claim made regularly in used clothing auctions on e-bay that is very often palpably untrue. Oftentimes, it was purchased for a wedding, worn once, and is now being flogged off after the divorce for beer money.

    You can often find extraordinary deals. I picked up a double breasted Zegna for about $100. While it had been altered, it was effectively brand new.

    You will have to get a used tuxedo altered to fit you but you'll have to get a new one altered, too. My only advise is that something that seems slightly too large is better than something that seems slightly too small. It's a lot easer for a tailor to take something in rather then let something out, especially if there's no extra material in the seam!
     
  17. cogitoergosum81

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    Cogito,

    The BB tuxedo is going to be better by just about every possible standard than the Hugo Boss. Whatever tuxedo you get, plan on spending another $100 or so to have it altered to fit you properly.


    Thanks. I did read through most of the black tie guide before starting to shop for a tux (~2 months ago). I am going to go to a BB store and check out their tuxedos. On the other hand, I found a coupon for the online store for a $250 discount. I wonder if I can purchase the tux online and go to the store to have it altered...
    In terms of Ebay shopping, I have already attempted that. I purchased a tux that didn't fit right and had to return it. Luckily, it had a little defect on the arm but listed as NWT. The seller was nice enough to take it back for that reason (his policies didn't not accept returns).
     
  18. Xiaogou

    Xiaogou Senior member

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    You might consider a morning coat if the wedding is in the daytime.
     
  19. KObalto

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    I wonder if I can purchase the tux online and go to the store to have it altered...
    I believe the stores will alter BB clothing for free regardless of where it was purchased.
     
  20. Bounder

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    You might consider a morning coat if the wedding is in the daytime.

    I have to disagree. The odds on every again using a morning coat in the States are vanishingly small. There are, however, opportunities to use a tuxedo. If you own one, you will look for them. Wearing daytime formal dress is too much like playing dress-up on your special day.

    From Kobalto
    I believe the stores will alter BB clothing for free regardless of where it was purchased.

    This almost an argument to take it somewhere else. I dislike in-store alteration services because they have an incentive to do as little as possible. Many will try and do the bare minimum it takes to get you to go away. I'm not saying that BB is necessarily that way -- I suspect it depends a lot on the store. In any event, I really recommend you take it to a good tailor -- possibly one recommended on SF -- and begin to build a relationship. A good tailor will charge you a fair price for alterations. But a good tailor also has no incentive to try and either skimp on necessary altertations or sell you those you don't need. A good tailor will explain what can be done, what effect it will have on the fit, how much it will cost and then let you decide exactly how far you need to go.

    A good tailor will also teach you about fit and help you figure out what will look best on you. This is something that is almost impossible to get from an in-store tailor.
     

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