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Brooks Brothers shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by bry2000, Dec 12, 2004.

  1. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    I have a new pair of size 9D Brooks Brothers black cap toe lace ups that I have never worn. They are labeled as Brooks Brothers. Now, the Brooks shoes are labeled Peal & Co. and are made by either C&J or Sargent. Who made the shoes I am referring to? I am planning to list them in the Buying and Selling section and I would like to identify the manufacturer. Great shoes, but I have bought so many recently from Bennies and Paul Stuart that I need to downsize. Thanks.
     
  2. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Are they American-made? If so, they're probably Alden. What are the interior markings?
     
  3. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    I believe they are American made. When I get home, I will check the markings and I will list them here. I suspect that they are Aldens (calfskin) as well, but I would like to confirm before I make that claim. Thank you. I used to have them in a mid-brown as well and I loved them. Unfortunately, I lost them when USAir misplaced my luggage awhile ago.
     
  4. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Are they bluchers or bals? The Alden model number for black cap-toe bals (no perfing) is 907, and the model number for black cap-toe bluchers (no perfing) is 971. I've seen the blucher model at Brooks Brothers in both black and mid-brown (Alden calls that color Walnut), and I like and own the mid-brown version (although labelled Alden rather than BB).
     
  5. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    They are bals. I will get the markings in the morning. If they are not Aldens, then I will be very much perplexed. Nice shoes either way.
     
  6. nightowl6261a

    nightowl6261a Senior member

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    90% of the Brook Bros. shoes are definitely Alden, if they have a 3 digit SKU, they for sure are.
     
  7. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    Here are the markings on the Brooks Brothers shoes.

    9 B/D 8D03 038 10
    style 0901

    They are a 9D black cap toe lace up bals. They are similar in styling to the AE Byrons (but they are NOT AEs).

    Based on these markings, are they Aldens?
     
  8. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes. Alden Style 901 is a perf cap-toe bal in black. The "B/D" marking for the width is also a dead giveaway.
     
  9. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    JCusey,

    Thank you for your guidance. How do these Alden BB shoes compare to the current day Peal (C&J) version of the lace up cap toe bal. I have worn both and they seem comparable in quality and comfort. The Peal C&J's retail for around $368; the Aldens, $315. Not sure it is worth the extra money.
     
  10. johnnynorman3

    johnnynorman3 Senior member

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    Aldens -- better leather, better construction (especially the insteap support.

    Peals -- more elegant last, to the extent that it has a narrower line.

    Personally, sometimes I like a less narrow shoe -- more American look. I don't know why, but I do. My Greens, Polos, and Grensons fill my "narrow silhouette" needs, and I like that the Aldens mix it up a little.
     
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    AlanC Senior member

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    Brooks continues to offer both the American made Aldens and the English Peals. They vary the models up from time to time, but both are always offered. They don't seem to have an Alden bal currently, although they do have this Alden blucher, as compared to the Peal captoe. Both retail at $378.
     
  12. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    It seems as though you can buy Alden calfskin shoes more cheaply on the Alden website or the Alden store vs. at Brooks Brothers.
     
  13. nightowl6261a

    nightowl6261a Senior member

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    Or you can buy them from me and save 15% off retail.
     
  14. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    Chris, you are relentless. I like that.
     
  15. nightowl6261a

    nightowl6261a Senior member

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    Not trying to be, but I like everyone in hear except one person, so I like saving everyone a little money, and, doing business too. But for the most part, I hate to see anyone pay retail for anything, hell I am the cheapest person around, well sorta.
     
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    JohnMS Senior member

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    www.theshoemart.com I don't remember who I spoke with last month, but he pretty much offered 25 percent off any Alden shoes.
     
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    nightowl6261a Senior member

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    That is a great price, I would definitely jump on that, I shop a lot of the competition quite often, and most will only offer $25 off, maybe he mis-spoke himself.
     
  18. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    You carry Alden?
     
  19. nightowl6261a

    nightowl6261a Senior member

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    I can get them, no problem, I just do not list them on the site, if I did people would come in the store looking for them, and then be really pissed when we did not have them in the store.....but I can get them pretty quickly, generally within 2 weeks.
     
  20. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    BB still sells the Alden-made shoes in addition to Peal shoes made by both Alfred Sargent and C&J. The Peal BB shoes and the Alden BB shoes both have the same price ($378), and both of them are overpriced at that level. I'd probably prefer the Peal shoes because they have channelled soles and a more elegant last, and it looks like more effort was taken finishing the details of the Peal shoes. I never worn the Peal shoes, so I can't comment on fit, comfort, or durability; but based just on what I have observed, it seems like the Peal shoes are marginally better.
     

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