papado
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I'm not too familiar with the quality of Proper Cloth. The shirts look alright. I really don't want something subpar. Bear in mind, 9 out of 10 times I tend to go with shirts that start at $220-ish and, as such, I've grown accustomed to a certain level of quality. I don't mean to imply that Golden Fleece is the best shirt out there, but they are undeniably well made relative to a more basic shirt.
Now, if Proper Cloth is one of those modern disruptive brands who makes superior quality for a fraction of the cost by way of some unprecedented internet business model, then I stand corrected. But from what I can see these look like mid-level dress shirts with mid-level prices to match. I'd love to learn that I'm wrong!
In the meantime, I ended up just buying the Brioni (https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/brioni-stripe-dress-shirt/product/0400011838678) because I really do love the design and I'd be sad if they all sold out. So I guess I'll update you guys when it comes in the mail in a few days. According to the Saks website the shoulder to the hem is 28 inches, which seems short to me and implies that the sleeves might be the right length after all.
I'm looking forward to the surprise actually.
Last, but not least, I did some research and learned that the most universal sleeve length for men is 32/33 which was my assumption initially. I didn't think my arms were all that short. They hang pretty much like everyone else's arms!
My reference to Proper Cloth was based on your earlier post saying they didn't have the Italian style collars you were looking for--I am not in anyway saying they are the epitome of premium quality construction. I'd agree based on your purchases that they may not meet your expectations.
I do believe that the shirt you've purchased will likely have very long sleeves because you have to factor in yoke width as well. I'm basically a 16x35 (really 34.5 but who's counting...) and my shoulder to cuff measurement on my shirts is ~26 inches so I have a feeling this shirt you've purchased will have sleeves closer to a 37" sleeve length and not sure if can even be shortened to your needs.
Echoing a point by another poster--if you're in a position to spend ~500 on a shirt I would highly recommend you go down the bespoke path as you will not have to worry about these kind of issues and get exactly the details you want. It will take a couple weeks to get it sorted out (measurements, possible trial shirt, adjustments, etc) but once you do you can confidently get shirts in almost any fabric imaginable and with any details (cuff, collar, etc) and know it will be great once you receive it. Where are you located?