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Brands that are coasting off their reputation

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by stevejobs, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. dkzzzz

    dkzzzz Senior member

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    Definitely Armani! Collezioni and Emporio. Used to be made in Italy, now 70% are made in Turkey and other cheap countries. Quality is going down, prices are going up.

    Who would pay $600 for cheap armani collezioni polyester jacket?

    I have noticed Ralph Lauren is starting to follow Armani
     
  3. Kaplan

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    Why Persol?
    I'd like to know as well.

    And why Ray Ban? (Which was mentioned on an earlier page.)
     
  4. Azure

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    Gucci with huge stamps with his name on it charching just for teh stamp hundreds of euros for a could be a GAP jacket or Baseball jacket or whatever.

    Dolce & Gaba..... Just a few pieces are ok the rest overpriced hyped junk for wannabe stars..

    Boss is following the above...

    Some Versaces and Armanis too

    Even Lancia, top italian car brand is following that path doing fat cars not sportive as old delta anymore..

    Seems all this italian brands are living from their past.
     
  5. mr monty

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    Seiko...I know they aren't "high-end" enough for a lot of you on this board but I have several high end watches (access to many more through my father) and I still absolutely love certain vintage seikos and older mm's. Seiko just doesn't make anything nearly as nice or with as much effort as they used to.


    The Seiko Monsters are still very good watches for the money.
     
  6. kabert

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    Many years back (15+ years ago), I thought of these as high quality:

    - Joseph Abboud (I recall paying $125 each for a couple of sublime plaid cotton shirts)
    - Calvin Klein
    - Perry Ellis

    Then, JA sold out, CK went worldwide, and Perry Ellis died.
     
  7. mkarim

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    How about GAP and BR? Their prices keep going up, quality keeps dropping. It's to the point where their clothing is not worth buying (with the exception of, on sale, their suits and occasionally wool slacks).

    Nautica, anyone?

    Hmm...by reputation would you also include image?

    If that's the case, BOSS for certain.


    Agree on all accounts.
     
  8. mkarim

    mkarim Senior member

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    I see this in too many products: brands coasting off their previously sterling reputation for quality and overcharging for their products while simultaneously cutting corners to expand their profit margins or protect their market share.

    Tommy Hilfiger was once an up and coming label in the early 1990s, but then they got greedy, over-expanded into too many outlets, and churned out crappy clothing lines (not to mention staying too long with their hip-hop image). The same thing happened with Calvin Klein. The worst designer to fall into this downward spiral of brand destruction was Pierre Cardin. While Lacoste managed to rehabilitate its image as a quality apparel brand, Pierre Cardin has not.

    What brands do you think are currently coasting on their reputation and are hurting their brand's image because they make inferior goods for the prices they charge?


    Theory.
     
  9. kdaust

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    The fact that this thread is so long goes straight to Crane's point a few pages back.

    What's the bet a shorter thread would be "Brands that represent quality above all else".
     
  10. zjpj83

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    Ralph Lauren
    fail [​IMG]
     
  11. voxsartoria

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    The fact that this thread is so long goes straight to Crane's point a few pages back.

    What's the bet a shorter thread would be "Brands that represent quality above all else".


    Great idea.

    I'll give you credit.

    - B
     
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    BOSE (Buy other sound equipment, though their headphones get decent reviews surprisingly enough)
    Rolex (Only recently have they evolved into the watch they should be at their price point and even that is questionable when compared to alternatives)
    Montblanc (LE stuff is nice, but Meisterstuck line is only mediocre when compared to others)
    Aurora (Raised prices considerably in the hopes to boost prestige)
    Ferragamo (though have heard the tramezza line is ok)
    Armani
    Hugo Boss
    "High end" Chain Restaurants (Think PF Changs)
    Johnston and Murphy (Every pair I owned fell apart in less than a year)
    Louis Vuitton (Spendy, reportedly made in china for some of their line, and "played out")
    Burberry
    Coach (many gripe about their quality decline and tacky styles, personally I find them ok given their price compared to the competition and their more traditional stuff ok, but unless one pays alot more there aren't many options)
    Florsheim (shadow of its former self, but still better than most of the other bargain shoe companies out there)
    Tiffany (overpriced everything)
    Brand Malls (Simon)
    Cole Haan
    JCrew
    Banana Republic
    Nordstrom
    Sony
    Mercedes

    The interesting point is that seemingly every brand which gets big slips when it comes to something

    I am sure I can think of more...
     
  13. mkarim

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    BOSE (Buy other sound equipment, though their headphones get decent reviews surprisingly enough)
    Rolex (Only recently have they evolved into the watch they should be at their price point and even that is questionable when compared to alternatives)
    Montblanc (LE stuff is nice, but Meisterstuck line is only mediocre when compared to others)
    Aurora (Raised prices considerably in the hopes to boost prestige)
    Ferragamo (though have heard the tramezza line is ok)
    Armani
    Hugo Boss
    "High end" Chain Restaurants (Think PF Changs)
    Johnston and Murphy (Every pair I owned fell apart in less than a year)
    Louis Vuitton (Spendy, reportedly made in china for some of their line, and "played out")
    Burberry
    Coach (many gripe about their quality decline and tacky styles, personally I find them ok given their price compared to the competition and their more traditional stuff ok, but unless one pays alot more there aren't many options)
    Florsheim (shadow of its former self, but still better than most of the other bargain shoe companies out there)
    Tiffany (overpriced everything)
    Brand Malls (Simon)
    Cole Haan
    JCrew
    Banana Republic
    Nordstrom
    Sony
    Mercedes

    The interesting point is that seemingly every brand which gets big slips when it comes to something

    I am sure I can think of more...


    CK.
     
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  15. mkarim

    mkarim Senior member

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    America [​IMG]

    Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you there!
     

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