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The shoes length 12 1/2 with 1/4 edging inthe front .Without the edging 12 1/4. The width is 4 1/8.I wear a size 11 narrow american size.And I usually wear a 9 1/2 zegna not this time to snug and I dont feel like going through the pain.What I'm told there 9 1/2 zegna is for 10 -10 1/2.Originally Posted by lutfa