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Bourbon.

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by The Wayfarer, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Senior member

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    Not bourbon, but WHistle Pig Boss Hog is damn good (a rye, Canadian though)...aside from that, I don't know of much decent bourbin from the NE.
     
  2. Master-Classter

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    So finally cracked open a few much anticipated bottles last night. First, Bookers. Wow wow wee wow were you guys ever right about this. Now this is bourbon! I took it neat with small sips. Got an immediate whole mouth hot caramel swirl. My mouth just lit up with warmth. Smooth to drink and besides a little tongue numbing, no sharp kick after swallowing. It was just a taste before heading out but I'm really happy this one's in the collection and looking forward to drinking it and getting more. Great experience.

    Second taste of the night was Eagle Rare 10. Nice looking bottle and 10 years of age given my Scotch intro had me at somewhat high hopes. Well you're looking at a guy who's happy drinking Beam white, so I'm still new at this. The ER10 just tasted the way I'm used to bourbon tasting. Perhaps there was some more depth, maybe smoother, hell i don't know, it was fine, but I really have to have this a few more times and see if there's something I'm missing. I'm sure it's better than cheap ol' bourbons, but after just trying Bookers, this didn't do a whole lot for me. Now ER17's on the hitlist but it'll be a while before I see it methinks.
     
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    Nice, I'll keep an eye out for it.
     
  4. bt61184

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    Anyone might be able to help a brother out with 4RLE Single Barrel 2014?
     
  5. indesertum

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    :( me too. Somebody help
     
  6. bdeuce22

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    Not all for me. 2 different barrel picks for a store near me. OBSO and OESO.

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    Si, seƱor.
     
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  9. indesertum

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    Went to a random liquor store in brooklyn and a distiller of a new craft distillery in brooklyn was doing tastings of his bourbon. $45 for a 375 ml of a six month old bourbon aged in small barrels. He kept trying to dodge the question of aging and provenance. He also kept saying how his customers loved it and one guy already bought 3 bottles.

    It was surprisingly oaky for a 6 month yo but still pretty harsh and I'd rather drink like bonded grand old dad or something. I didn't even realize there's no age requirement for bourbon only for straight bourbon and bonded bourbon
     
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  10. Bhowie

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    Fuck upstart distillers.
     
  11. NewYorkIslander

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    I feel bad for them. They are really up against it big time. The big guys have such a huge head start...I picked up a couple of those Rhode Island Single Malts yesterday when I was out there...curious to try them.
     
  12. Van Veen

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    The problem is that they need to figure out ways to cut corners with aging, and it's normally very obvious (at least to regular whiskey drinkers, and not hipsters who think anything "locavore" is better no matter what).
     
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  13. indesertum

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    you can't cut corners with age

    all these companies trying to create older whiskeys simply by trying to extract more wood phenols don't understand oak phenols isn't all there is to aging. you can have a oaky product that still tastes too harsh and unbalanced
     
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  14. Gibonius

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    It's a tough industry for obvious reasons. Seems like a lot of these guys are trying to do gins and white dogs to keep product moving while they age. Some of the gins are interesting but always feel really overpriced. I really don't get why anybody is going to pay $40+ for white dog, "artisinal" or not. Even the decent aged products tend to be 50% more expensive than their quality tier, and I'm really not about to spend $50 on more or less decent whiskey just to give a new guy a leg up.

    There's a local VA distiller that I wanted to like, but the rye was just too thin and flat. I should have known when they were hyping the "organic grain" that it wasn't going to be great.

    The only "artisan" distiller that I've really liked and felt like a decent pricepoint was Corsair.
     
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  15. NewYorkIslander

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    The funniest shit is Widow Jane selling non-GMO corn 375ml for $125. Wild Turkey and Four Roses both use non GMO corn, barrel at cask strength for some, and charge a hell of a lot less. Some people prefer to be ignorant and think they're drinking GREAT stuff. I find the same with guys who DO know...with dusties. I used to be one of them. Sure its rare, sure its cool, sure its historical, but most of the stuff produced today is just head and shoulders better than that mid shelf stuff that people go nuts for. Having said that, i do love the 86 proof OGD from ND. Really is tasty stuff and very creamy, unlike most stuff on the market today.

    Been getting into these lately...
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    The half empty is from the WT Gift Shop for their opening, one is a KY Liquor Store, the other is a Julios pick....all neighboring barrels.
     
  16. indesertum

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    same here. i'm not paying you $50 for a 375 of white dog or 6 month old bourbon.

    i do like some of these gins coming out tho. barr hill i quite like. has a strong honey flavor that is kind of nice. need to expand my gin knowledge


    is the single barrel russels reserve good? its not cask strength right? just high proof?
     
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  17. NewYorkIslander

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    The private picks are fantastic...110 proof.
     
  18. JohnGalt

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  19. joelscott7

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    My thought on the newer distillers is that they need to make their juice and let it age while working other jobs. I feel like these companies feel as if they deserve to make money, even before they have earned it. This bothers me as everyone else has to earn their stripes.
    I have heard really good things about russels reserve and will be looking for it in the future.

    I had not seen that Four Roses Secretariat before. Looks good. Let us know what you think when you open it.
     
  20. indesertum

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    it's really good. i wish i had a bottle
     

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