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Bourbon.

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by The Wayfarer, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. edinatlanta

    edinatlanta Stylish Dinosaur

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    Your last two pics didnt load :(

    Gonna have to restart my bourbon game. Truly you guys (Mainly @gnatty for resurrecting this thread) are an inspiration.
     

  2. Dusty Heaters

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    A friend with fine taste and a kind heart. Glad to see those bottles being enjoyed and not held hostage for exorbitant prices on the secondary market.

    Great find. I was lucky enough to get a bottle at retail myself but am saving the uncorking for Christmas. Had a few tastes at an event a couple weeks ago and share your sentiments. Great batch this year. Wish I had a few more for the bunker.
     

  3. Girardian

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    Another VERY interesting (and equally rare) bourbon I had a few months ago. I'm not an "old dusty whore" (sorry for the visual), but this was some exceptional classic bourbon. I don't recall the discussion re: the likely (actual) age, but I seem to recall some esoteric knowledge suggesting around 14 years. Could be off on that recollection for sure (we sampled a lot of great whiskey that night).

    Re: a generous friend -- when you've been drinking whiskey for long enough with the right guys, you find a community of generosity. It's about give-and-take. For example, we hit a bottle of 1990s Aberlour 18 I brought hard that same night, along with 6 or 7 other "unusual" bottles I gathered for the group.

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  4. gnatty8

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    Didn't bother looking. Because of the state run stores in PA, Philadelphia is a wasteland for good whiskey. Also, my old B&M in Tennessee offered me a Thomas H. Handy for $500 to which I responded "no thanks". I believe having a liquor license doesn't mean they have a license to earn 500% to 600% margins on products they are simply reselling on behalf of the distillery. In my opinion, there is not a whiskey out there that's worth $500. I probably have a half dozen bottles of earlier BTAC releases from 2011 and 2012 (mainly GTS and Eagle Rare 17) that are still unopened and I will get to one day, and another few bottles of PVW that I purchased at retail prices (under $100) before the bourbon craze flared up. I'd actually probably sell one or two at current market prices since my opportunity cost if FAR above the value I place on them, but it's too much of a hassle, so I will just drink them one of these days..
     

  5. Dusty Heaters

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    @Girardian Now you're just showing off! An OF-BIB from what looks like the 70's? Unheard of! I am beyond envious.

    @gnatty8 I grew up in PA, outside of Harrisburg to be exact, but went to college(s) in Philly. Will always be a die-hard Philly fan regardless of the fascist liquor situation. Don't sleep on their annual lotto's and online inventory though. I just scooped up 4x Blanton's at fair retail, free shipping to a relative's house, a couple days ago. I'm headed home for the holidays so things ended up working out to spread the Christmas cheer.

    I agree on the price gouging and hype train construct that's become the new norm in the bourbon world. The most I've ever paid for the juice was $130...and that's only because I'm a fan of the Noe's mash-bill. Generally I play in the $30-$60 range. I think there are plenty of great options to be had and enjoyed without camping outside of liquor stores or spending hours chasing unicorns. It's sounds like you have one hell of a holdout though. If you're ever looking to cash in a few, check out bottle-spot.com as that seems to be the best venue to make a buck quick. Or if you're feeling the Christmas spirit, drop me a PM. :wink:
     

  6. Dusty Heaters

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    On a much less spectacular note, here’s my Allen Edmonds to @Girardian ’s Top Drawer bespoke Edward Green’s.

    This particular OWA was a barrel pick from a once local shop in Covington, Kentucky. Barreled 12/20/10 and bottled 6 years later, this single barrel holds its own against older and ‘more premium’ cousins despite being modestly priced at $19.99.
     

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    Scotch is much more popular in Poland. However from time to time my US relatives bring me Woodford Reserve which I understand is some mid-tier bourbon but I enjoy it very much. I'm looking forward to revisiting this thread next time I am in the USA:)
     

  8. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Stylish Dinosaur

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    Russell's reserve single barrel today. KL Wines has some exclusive barrels that they choose and purchase. They have a rep come a few times a year and do a tasting of the different options. Pretty neat.
     

  9. Krish the Fish

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    I got a Old Fitz 14, GTS and WLW this year but at secondary. I put my name in the hat for the OH BTAC and VW lotteries but am not holding my breath on those. I find at this point I don’t have the time or patience that others do to spend traveling hours down to KY and back, waiting in lines or bouncing from store to store to have a chance to purchase a bottle. I would rather pay a premium to get what I want and know for certain I will get what I want.

    The 2009 PVW 15 I got this year was very tasty, but I think pre-91 OWO is much better tasting and 2/3 the price so I think I’ll likely buy more Old Weller Original whenever it pops up
     

  10. Girardian

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    Store / group barrel picks OWA can be amazing ... if you can get them!
     

  11. Dusty Heaters

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    As it should be given your locality. That’s a much more ‘relative’ whiskey for you. I enjoy scotch...I’m just not not wealthy enough to partake in good scotch.

    I’m sure I’m not alone when I say, we’d love to turn you on you other readily available bourbons that might sway your opinion on woodford.

    RR can be incredible depending on the barrel. I think Decades batch 1 was an incredible showing of what blended WT is capable of. That’s a cool outlet you have to sample some of the wares!

    Completely understand. We’re on SF for a reason after all. I, like you, am not camping out or otherwise wasting time ‘hunting’ for the chance the buy overpriced bullshit either. I rely on relationships and chance. If it’s meant to be, it’s meant to be.

    Interesting to hear about your thoughts in Pappy 15. That’s actually my favorite of the whole series. I only wish I had more...but I’m not paying $1k a bottle for it.

    Agree. It didn’t always used to be that way...but now Weller in general is a nearly allocated. Sad.

    Speaking of a pick that can vary drastically...Here’s what I’m sipping on this evening that falls more into the ‘average’ category. Picking from the 1st floor probably wasn’t the best idea...

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  12. Girardian

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    Agreed - just because it’s a barrel pick does not make it good. Until you taste through a lot of barrels (if you’re lucky) or a lot of picks (still lucky), it’s hard to appreciate barrel variation — and makes you appreciate the art of blending to get a consistent profile. Some of my favorites have been the most uncharacteristic barrels.
     

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    Special occasion: Dig into the stash of Stagg/Elmer T Lee.
    Dinner with friends: Anything from Belle Meade Bourbon
    Rest of the time: Bulleit/Buffalo Trace/Maker's Mark

    Belle Meade is making some of the better bourbon out there these days. Especially like their cask finish stuff. And if you visit the distillery you can buy some 100% corn whiskey they made as a test or something.
     

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    7666F4B8-2027-4C77-A78F-10B2D2595243.jpeg Been on a Crown Royal Northern Harvest Rye “Boulevardier” kick, while staying in an Idyllwild cabin last several days. A nice winter drink...
     

  15. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Stylish Dinosaur

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    Have you tried any of the 1920 or single barrel stuff?
     

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