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Bourbon.

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by The Wayfarer, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. bdeuce22

    bdeuce22 Senior member

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    nice...my friend was able to snag one for me at the distillery on release day. i am a big fan of Ks.
     
  2. Tallcane

    Tallcane Senior member

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    Need to find a bottle.
     
  3. Krish the Fish

    Krish the Fish Senior member

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    Me too. My city's allocation was less than the PVW release, so no bottles made it to retail shelves. I would like to get my hands on a bottle but I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, which is pretty much inevitable in the secondary market nowadays
     
  4. Tallcane

    Tallcane Senior member

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    Agreed. I want one and am a big four roses fan but I won't pay what the secondary market wants. I will try to find a bottle at retail or pass.
     
  5. Stillmaticbeat

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    pvw20 for 1150 reasonable?
     
  6. Texasmade

    Texasmade Senior member

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    No unless you have the $1200 to drop and not care.
     
  7. AlexJ1100

    AlexJ1100 Senior member

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    While it's a good bourbon, I have never heard someone say Pappy is worth the price. If you can get it at retail, go for it. Otherwise there are way better options.
     
  8. concealed

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    whats a reasonable price to pay for a pour of PvW 23?
     
  9. AlexJ1100

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    I could only find one place in town with a price breakdown of the collection. It's not an upscale place so I could think they're prices are reasonable and comparable to many others.

    Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr - 19
    Van Winkle Special Reserve 12 yr - 26
    Pappy Van Winkle 15 yr - 40
    Pappy Van Winkle 20 yr - 65
    Pappy Van Winkle 23 yr - 85

    Found another price list, but it was a photo online so I don't know how old it was (edit - these were menu prices at a different restaurant in 2014)
    Pappy Van Winkle 12 yr - 12
    Pappy Van Winkle 15 yr - 16
    Pappy Van Winkle 20 yr - 27
    Pappy Van Winkle 23 yr - 60
     
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    this was on the menu at south city kitchen, buckhead atlanta - $85 on the nose last night

    they also had the stitzel weller fitzgerald's very special reserve 20 yr for $135
     
  11. Texasmade

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    Those prices for a pour is actually isn't too bad to what I see at my local bar in Houston. I think a sampling of half pours for all of them are in the $200 range at my local bar. They won't even sell just a single pour and only do the samplings.
     
  12. NewYorkIslander

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    Standard price on PVW 20 on the secondary market is 1200. Once this years hits, expect that to rise, as it has every year since 2012.
     
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  13. gnatty8

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    Some of the best whiskies I've tasted this year are from California's Splinter Group, which has been experimenting with finishing bourbons in barrels that previously held its wine. So far I think there are only two releases - Slaughter House and Straight Edge.

    Slaughter House is a 9 year old bourbon that was finished in French oak that previously held Napa Valley Bordeaux varietal red wine. Straight Edge is a blend of 5, 7 and 8 year old whiskies from Kentucky and Tennessee, which are finished in Cabernet barrels. In all honesty, I'd miss these more than PVW were they to suddenly dry up, but having been drinking PVW regularly for 10+ years now, it's seriously just hype for me now. My local place offered me a bottle last year at retail and I passed it up. Yeah, I could have flipped it, but to me that's not cool knowing someone who may have actually wanted to drink it would now not have the opportunity. Karma.
     
  14. AlexJ1100

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    So you'd recommend the wine barrel finished bourbons?

    A hear a lot of commendations for Angel's Envy (which is finished in port barrels) but I've never gotten around to trying it.
     
  15. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Angels Envy are some of my favorite bourbons (the Cask Strength and the Port). But I am much more of a wine drinker then a liquor drinker.
     
  16. gnatty8

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    Very much so. They are priced relatively well when compared to other top shelf bourbons, and I've enjoyed these two whiskies a good deal better than the bulk, if not all, of the new entrants into this fairly crowded market now..
     
  17. NewYorkIslander

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    You're a better man than I am!

    FTR, I think Pappy is pretty good, but like @gnatty8 says, there are tons of great bourbons out there. Taste is so subjective.
     
  18. taxgenius

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    Forgive me if this was already covered but why did the price of Black Maple Hill skyrocket?
     
  19. kape

    kape Well-Known Member

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    Hype!
     
  20. Gibonius

    Gibonius Senior member

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    I think a non-trivial portion of it is that the label and bottle look a lot like Pappy.



    And really, every premium offering has dramatically increased in price.
     

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