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Fedoraguy

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Boots purchased this year. RM Williams Gardener and C&J Eskdale 2. Wife and stepson bought the Eskdale for me in the summer and I just bought the RMWs a few days ago.

Its not so apparent in the pictures but both are the same size however the C&J looks at least half size bigger and wider. When I bought the C&J it was very snug on the instep but length and width felt good. It's just about broken in now and feels comfortable and feet is not sliding around (yet). RM feel snug but not uncomfortable so should be perfect once broken in. Leather feels thinner somehow though. So although it's not a complaint I'm just at a loss how shoes can appear this different but fit the same.

Anyone else experienced this?

Rag and Bone boots.

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Von Knauzenstein

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Question for the boot cognoscenti. My new C&J Islay are great. I, however, have noticed one oddity. The tongue on the right boot insists on rotating outwards as I wear it. I'll put the boot on, take extra care to center the tongue and then cinch the top speed hooks tight, yet after an hour's wear, the damned thing has literally rotated all way to the outward side of the boot.

These are my first tall leather boots, and I'm downright perplexed. Left boot tongue remains exactly where I laced it up for the entire wear.

Yes, I had the same problem on one of the two pair of Islay I have. They fixed it at the gobbler in the way stephenaf2003 describes but the stitching is at a lower point, it works but it makes going in and out of the boot a bit more difficult and it's somewhat annoying. But when wearing them no problems anymore, the tongue stays where it should be.
 

Frozenhaze

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It is covered by my trousers so the rain won't hit that area.

I've also seen solutions where a loop was made on top of the tongue which solves the waterproofing issue
One would hope that at least premium brands would recognize this issue, as this problem characterizes them as much as cheaper / lower quality brands. Even a few tens of dollars supermarket shoes have that tongue loop installed... how hard can it be...
 

CZZ300

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Good day.
Pls ignore this. I don’t know how to delete/undo a post once started.
 

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