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I’m considering ordering a pair of dark brown boots for this fall/winter and I’d be interested in getting some opinions on which route to go. I’m debating between the C&J Coniston or the Carmina 80184 in dark brown grain. I’ve gone back and forth on which I prefer as I have the same Carminas in tan grain and they fit great so I know my size and I also prefer the ridgeway/Victoria style sole. I also think the Oscar last is a bit more to my taste than the CJ 325. However, I have a couple pairs of CJ (calf Hallam and suede Hardwick) and the leather and overall quality seems to be just a bit better than Carmina and it’d be nice to have some variety as I have several pairs of Carmina boots. What does the forum recommend?
You honestly can't go wrong with either choice, but it does depend on the aesthetic you want as of this moment. I own the Coniston in dark brown scotch and it's a staple of my shoe wardrobe, and one I'll always have. I'm happy with my pair; very versatile, I love the fit, the burnished scotch is amazing and they feel like tanks yet sleek.
My choice is for the Coniston boots. I went tts and it's a generous fit in terms of volume with good space in the forefoot. A flattering last imo.
I purchased a pair of frankenstitch boots (80223 same as 80184 with peculiar stitching) on the Oscar last during Carmina's recent MTO weekend and confidently with my tts 9 UK after my extensive research via shoe fora. Just thought I mentioned this.

Personally, I'd go the Carmina route if I were to do the 80184 via MTO.
 

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You honestly can't go wrong with either choice, but it does depend on the aesthetic you want as of this moment. I own the Coniston in dark brown scotch and it's a staple of my shoe wardrobe, and one I'll always have. I'm happy with my pair; very versatile, I love the fit, the burnished scotch is amazing and they feel like tanks yet sleek.
My choice is for the Coniston boots. I went tts and it's a generous fit in terms of volume with good space in the forefoot. A flattering last imo.
I purchased a pair of frankenstitch boots (80223 same as 80184 with peculiar stitching) on the Oscar last during Carmina's recent MTO weekend and confidently with my tts 9 UK after my extensive research via shoe fora. Just thought I mentioned this.

Personally, I'd go the Carmina route if I were to do the 80184 via MTO.
Thank you for this. Interesting that you described the Conistons as sleak as in pictures (not always, just some angles) they often seem a bit too round/blobby to me which is why I lean towards the Oscar last.
 

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Thank you for this. Interesting that you described the Conistons as sleak as in pictures (not always, just some angles) they often seem a bit too round/blobby to me which is why I lean towards the Oscar last.
I genuinely do see them as sleek boots, but it may be also dependent upon the kind of boots one usually wears as well.
I’ll include some shots of my coniston boots. I feel like these shots are an accurate representation of how they look on foot.

I should mention I like a hearty welt, oppose to a close-cut welt for majority of my boots. This can give a visual appearance of a hefty boot, but in actuality it’s a negligible nuance from my experience.
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Can anyone help me with sizing advice for Nick’s boots or White’s boots?
For comparison, I mostly have experience with Allen Edmonds boots. I usually wear a 13B in AE boots, but sometimes have to move up to a 14 on certain lasts.

Thanks.
 

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You honestly can't go wrong with either choice, but it does depend on the aesthetic you want as of this moment. I own the Coniston in dark brown scotch and it's a staple of my shoe wardrobe, and one I'll always have. I'm happy with my pair; very versatile, I love the fit, the burnished scotch is amazing and they feel like tanks yet sleek.
My choice is for the Coniston boots. I went tts and it's a generous fit in terms of volume with good space in the forefoot. A flattering last imo.
I purchased a pair of frankenstitch boots (80223 same as 80184 with peculiar stitching) on the Oscar last during Carmina's recent MTO weekend and confidently with my tts 9 UK after my extensive research via shoe fora. Just thought I mentioned this.

Personally, I'd go the Carmina route if I were to do the 80184 via MTO.
That’s just it about the Coniston, isn’t it? I started out with Trickers, which I love, but having tried a Coniston it quickly became the pair I reached for the most. Easy to smash around in, and a good choice of you want to dress up a bit as well. Now that I have some nearly post pandemic induced buyer’s remorse I find myself thinking about trimming the shoes and boots cabinet but i’m mostly going to get the dark brown Coniston and keep that for nearly everything.
 

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10,300 miles later I've arrived in Maun, Botswana visiting my daughter and son in law who live here now.
Decided to bring along my brand new Alden 405 "Indy boots" because I couldn't think of a better place to break them in than 5 weeks in Botswana with 3 planned trips into the bush and a lot of tramping around in the fine sand that makes up much of this area. Wore these boots on the way over and they are breaking in nicely, super comfortable as we ran thru all sorts of treks in multiple airports to catch the 3 flights to get here.
Attached are the before shots with the boots getting their first exposure to the fine sand here. I will not be sparing them full exposure to the elements. I'll post more shots of the evolving patina as I put them thru their paces over here.
 

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10,300 miles later I've arrived in Maun, Botswana visiting my daughter and son in law who live here now.
Decided to bring along my brand new Alden 405 "Indy boots" because I couldn't think of a better place to break them in than 5 weeks in Botswana with 3 planned trips into the bush and a lot of tramping around in the fine sand that makes up much of this area. Wore these boots on the way over and they are breaking in nicely, super comfortable as we ran thru all sorts of treks in multiple airports to catch the 3 flights to get here.
Attached are the before shots with the boots getting their first exposure to the fine sand here. I will not be sparing them full exposure to the elements. I'll post more shots of the evolving patina as I put them thru their paces over here.
Awesome! Enjoy the trip and looking forward to seeing the after shots
 

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