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Boardwalk Empire

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Jekyll, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. suited

    suited Senior member

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    like it overall but buscemi's acting is like an SNL gangster skit
    It's a mirror image of his character in The Sopranos. Not really surprising. He's playing a gangster in both.
     
  2. NoNothingGuy

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    I just couldn't figure out what the hell was actually happening. I think I was confused by the crosscutting between the feds raiding the funeral home and Jimmy hijacking the liquor. I initially thought the feds were in the woods by the road where the hijacking was taking place. I also wasn't sure if Jimmy ended up working with the feds or not. Watching this episode half asleep was probably not a good idea.

    I am with you on this... I cannot figure out why they melded the scenes together, very confusing. Also, why wasn't Nucky more pissed off about the hijack? I mean, he was the one with everything to lose, yet seemed somewhat "thankful" for his "share." And why was it his "share?" It was all supposed to be his. I just didn't get it. I, too, was half asleep.

    I think the clothing, scenery is just too costumey to invoke a real sense of identification. We all identified with Tony Soprano in some way. He seemed like a real guy. Same with Don Draper. Nucky doesn't seem like a real guy. I like the show so far, but this is no Sopranos or Mad Men. It is just too fake. The set and props (those damn babies?) are just unrealistic.

    Also, they changed Nucky's name b/c the writer/director/producer wanted artistic freedom. Nucky was only in his 30's when this took place in real life, he was a big, fat guy and plus the storyline takes a lot of liberties with the actual events, etc. This was mentioned in the pre-show piece that HBO presented on Sunday evening.
     
  3. suited

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    I am with you on this... I cannot figure out why they melded the scenes together, very confusing. Also, why wasn't Nucky more pissed off about the hijack? I mean, he was the one with everything to lose, yet seemed somewhat "thankful" for his "share." And why was it his "share?" It was all supposed to be his. I just didn't get it. I, too, was half asleep. I think the clothing, scenery is just too costumey to invoke a real sense of identification. We all identified with Tony Soprano in some way. He seemed like a real guy. Same with Don Draper. Nucky doesn't seem like a real guy. I like the show so far, but this is no Sopranos or Mad Men. It is just too fake. The set and props (those damn babies?) are just unrealistic. Also, they changed Nucky's name b/c the writer/director/producer wanted artistic freedom. Nucky was only in his 30's when this took place in real life, he was a big, fat guy and plus the storyline takes a lot of liberties with the actual events, etc. This was mentioned in the pre-show piece that HBO presented on Sunday evening.
    I don't know anything about the actual historical figure, but Nucky comes off in the show as someone at a crossroads. He isn't tough enough to be an outright gangster, and doesn't seem capable of leading a criminal enterprise - based on how his character was written in the first episode. He seems to be an a personal struggle between crook and gangster. I hope that's what they were going for, otherwise his character definitely fell short if we're supposed to see him as a tough gang leader. With the Sopranos, you got that almost immediately with Tony. After the opening scenes with the ducks and his family, he runs down a guy that owes him money with a car, then punches him in the face repeatedly, only after punching him in his compound fracture. Good stuff there.
     
  4. boogaboogabooga

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    I just couldn't figure out what the hell was actually happening. I think I was confused by the crosscutting between the feds raiding the funeral home and Jimmy hijacking the liquor. I initially thought the feds were in the woods by the road where the hijacking was taking place. I also wasn't sure if Jimmy ended up working with the feds or not. Watching this episode half asleep was probably not a good idea.

    The situation with Jimmy you mentioned hasn't been fully divulged yet. I think they might use Jimmy's dilemma as a source of tension somehow. Either your going to wonder if he'll take the deal or if he's already in on it. My guess from the shows promotional is that he doesn't take it. Granted, he could be playing both sides and not telling the FBI that he's killing people left and right, but I doubt that is the route they'll take.

    The raid/armed robbery scene was just a red herring to make both arcs more exciting.
     
  5. Ice141

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    I don't know anything about the actual historical figure, but Nucky comes off in the show as someone at a crossroads. He isn't tough enough to be an outright gangster, and doesn't seem capable of leading a criminal enterprise - based on how his character was written in the first episode. He seems to be an a personal struggle between crook and gangster. I hope that's what they were going for, otherwise his character definitely fell short if we're supposed to see him as a tough gang leader.
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    This New Yorker article gives you an idea about the history behind it. http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...ision_franklin
     
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    Very promising opening. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this show evolves. I was a little leery of Steve Buscemi being at the centre of it but I have to say he worked out.
     
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    Anyone else catch the cameo by the guy that played Omar in The Wire?
     
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    The music in general (while I understand it being necessary) kept annoying the hell out of me.

    +100
     
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    Anyone else catch the cameo by the guy that played Omar in The Wire?

    How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?
     
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    Was looking forward to this but was really disappointed.

    Writing and casting was below average, every cliche was on display and would have never guessed Scorcese had anything to do with this upon viewing.

    the only reason I kept watching was for the wardrobe.

    reminds of the story of what almost became of The Godfather-a made for t.v. quality release with Ernest Borgnine cast as Vito Corleone.
     
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    Anyone else catch the cameo by the guy that played Omar in The Wire?
    He's a full time cast member IIRC. I'm hoping for a "the game is the game" quote. Interesting premise but I agree with everyone about how slow it was. I know it was setup but it seemed like Martin Scorsese was trying to combine styles of The Sopranos and Mad Men. Hopefully it'll get its own style as time marches on.
     
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    Really excited about the development of the Al Capone character. The actor (Stephan Graham) played Combo in This is England - and was hard as **** in that movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480025/
     
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    I just couldn't figure out what the hell was actually happening. I think I was confused by the crosscutting between the feds raiding the funeral home and Jimmy hijacking the liquor. I initially thought the feds were in the woods by the road where the hijacking was taking place. I also wasn't sure if Jimmy ended up working with the feds or not. Watching this episode half asleep was probably not a good idea.
    I think that was all the point.

    Build suspense, thinking the feds were going to going to bust up the situation in the forest, and make it look like Jimmy was going to be involved with the feds.

    Unfinished/undeveloped stories are fairly common after a pilot.
     
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    definitely most excited to see what the storyline of Omar's character turns out to be
     
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    Like it

    However I don't like that Jimmy keeps telling Nucky that he's seen shit in the war but I don't think it reflects that much on his actions overall (even considering the roadside robbings).
     
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    I like it so far, will continue to watch.

    In the scene where the man and the 19yr old girl are being pushed down the boardwalk on that cart - the guy pushing them had a cream colored sweater on with a tie under, the sweater was really nice.
     
  18. whiteslashasian

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    I like it so far, will continue to watch.

    In the scene where the man and the 19yr old girl are being pushed down the boardwalk on that cart - the guy pushing them had a cream colored sweater on with a tie under, the sweater was really nice.


    I saw that sweater and pointed out that I really liked it; normally this would be fine as my gf would agree, however it was my roommate I was watching it with. He looked at me like I was some kind of weirdo...Later on in the episode he pointed out a cardigan Jimmy was wearing that he thought was interesting...We lol'd.

    This episode was a bit slow as well, however you can feel everything building up big time. Nucky vs Rothstein will be a big battle. Based on the previews, the next episode should have much more action.
     
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    buscemi is just too sickly looking to be scary.

    i'm undecided on whether i like the deadwoodpranos thus far.
     
  20. Piobaire

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    Omar gets in next epi. Looking to see if he can pull off another character.

    Nucky gave Jimmy a lesson that might make Jimmy bitter and will come back to haunt Nucky.
     

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