SG: I guess we disagree here (as opposed to politics). I don't feel numb at all when driving my Beemer. What car have you moved onto? IIRC, he has a Miata. And, y'know, I have to agree with his choice. I've loved every opportunity I've had to drive my friend's, and wish I could justify owning one. I'll grant that the only BMWs I've ever driven were a 2000 328 and a 2002 M3 (IIRC), and I thoroughly enjoyed them, but the handling and feedback of the Miata were sublime.