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Blucher- Am I saying it wrong?

Blackhood

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I have always said "Bluh-chah"

I had a similar thought on "basting" is it "bay-sting" or "bah-sting"?
 

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Is it "tomaaato" or "tomaahto"?

Blucher was a German general's name, so if you really wanted to pronounce it correctly you would have to use the German pronunciation "Jawohl Blucher!" (more towards "blue"...)
 

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Originally Posted by Siggy
Is it "tomaaato" or "tomaahto"?

Blucher was a German general's name, so if you really wanted to pronounce it correctly you would have to use the German pronunciation "Jawohl Blucher!" (more towards "blue"...)


Well, it's Blücher, isn't it -- so it should, technically, be closer to Blee-kher (since English doesn't have that diphthong; it's like the French u; the "ch" also isn't "tsh" or "ck" but a softer version of the "ch" in "loch").
 

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I thought the ü was more of an "oooh" sound?
 

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Originally Posted by Blackhood
I thought the ü was more of an "oooh" sound?

No, it's not. It's virtually the same as the French u (as in Rue, for instance). Much closer to "ee" than to "oo" in English.
 

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I'm wondering if there may be some phonetic confusion as I pronounce Rue to rhyme with Tube, Lube and Harpoon, as well as the ü sound in German. Maybe I'm wrong in both languages, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
 

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Originally Posted by Blackhood
I'm wondering if there may be some phonetic confusion as I pronounce Rue to rhyme with Tube, Lube and Harpoon, as well as the ü sound in German. Maybe I'm wrong in both languages, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Interesting. Given that you're in the UK, you surely don't pronounce "tube" and "harpoon" the same, do you?

But no, the "oo" in harpoon, or the flat American "oo" in "tube" or "news" are not the same sound as the German u-Umlaut or the French u/ue.
 

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Originally Posted by literasyme
it's like the French u; the "ch" also isn't "tsh" or "ck" but a softer version of the "ch" in "loch").

This is correct. Anyway, in English I assume a correct enough pronunciation is Blue-cher. It is like arguing how Americans should correctly pronouce the latin prononciation of cesar...
 

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Originally Posted by Siggy
This is correct. Anyway, in English I assume a correct enough pronunciation is Blue-cher. It is like arguing how Americans should correctly pronouce the latin prononciation of cesar...

Oh, but that surely isn't settled anywhere in the world!
 

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The best way to pronounce Blucher is the following: "Derby".
 

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