BlackTieFoo: Shirt Studs and Other Fooish Contemplations

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    though vintage bib fronts stopped way above the pant line, this was because men either wore cummerbunds or a matched pique vest.

    since you wont be wearing either, I suggest the pique stop underneath the waistband of your pants.
    it looks odd seeing the end of the bib front peaking up above your waistband
    I will assume that the pique is being placed on top of the body of the shirt, and that it will not be backed with lining to stiffen the front.

    did you go with a voile body?
    are you putting pique on the outside of the collar and cuff?
     
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    idfnl Senior member

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    WTF? Are you Vox's brother or something?
     
  3. Sanguis Mortuum

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    Corbera and Vox form a single gestalt entity.
     
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    More like low brow copycat
     
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    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    As far as I know, wholecuts are not worn for black tie for the same reason they are not traditional for business - that is just the way it is. A lot of these rules are really conventions, which makes them more Rule than Principle. I think wholecuts were not in the shoe repertoire, or at least not much, around the turn of the Twentieth Century when these forms were getting established. This means they were not considered rather than rejected. But if you are looking at a list of what is appropriate, that amounts to the same thing.
    If one were to focus on Principles rather than Rules, I think that polished calf or patent wholecuts would look great with black-tie.

    I generally wear plain toe black calf oxfords, but also black calf and bow pumps. Not that any of this gets a whole lot of use.

    My most recent black tie shirt is actually a plain white poplin with a covered placket and single link cuffs, turndown collar, but I also have a sheer voile with a pleated front.
     
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  6. Thin White Duke

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    What does it matter, if one assumes that a double breasted dinner jacket will not be unbuttoned these minor points are surely moot as they will never see the light of day until Foo disrobes, one hopes, in the comfort of his home and not in the public spotlight of the wedding party.
     
  7. F. Corbera

    F. Corbera Senior member

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    What do the Rules say about the OP being the Maid of Honor?

    :confused:


    Braggart.
     
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  8. F. Corbera

    F. Corbera Senior member

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    We're talking about mafoofan. After the first two glasses of champagne, both the jacket and the shirt are coming off.

    It won't be completely obscene, though: those Thurstons are wide on the chest, so nipples will still be discreet.
     
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  9. Thin White Duke

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    Just as long as he keeps his bow tie on in homage to his favourite Chippendale dancer.
     
  10. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    he does have to unbutton the DB jacket to sit down.
     
  11. Thin White Duke

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    Is that not a sartorial faux pas on a DB? Pretty sure that was the consensus when it came up on here recently.
     
  12. F. Corbera

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    I think that OP can still urinate in the mens lavatory standing up despite being the Maid of Honor.
     
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  13. F. Corbera

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    Hmmm...I guess this will mean that I should get that long vent in my evening tails sewn shut.

    Just as well...I don't foresee wearing them again, so this is my chance to correct them.
     
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  14. F. Corbera

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    Faux pas is a given today in nearly any social circumstance.

    That said, Foo's dinner jacket has no vents. So, it becomes a choice between unbuttoning or eating the salmon.
     
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  15. mafoofan

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    Funny, Geneva suggested a to-the-hem bib too, but I nixed the idea because it sounded odd to me.

    Voile body with pique facings on the collar, cuffs, and bib.


    Of course. Without a Matuozzo shirt that night, I'll have to depend on my own natural assets for nipular expression.


    Funny funny.


    I think I will have to unbutton. The last time I wore it, I wore it buttoned while sitting for dinner and it wrinkled across the waist rather visibly.
     
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