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Blackbird Naturally Dyed Oxfords

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Fycus, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. Fycus

    Fycus Senior member

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    I really like these:

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    More info here: http://mashion.bishopmartin.com/intr...-by-blackbird/

    Despite the high price of $189 (IMO its stupid that the house denim they offer is 30 dollars cheaper) these shirts look killer. If I come up with the funds I would totally cop a few. Thoughts?
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Senior member

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    How special for you.
     
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    these look great, very nice tones in color. I wonder if the dye is retained through repeated washings or if they fade due to the type of dyeing process?
     
  5. snake

    snake Senior member

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    Those look nice, I wonder how they fit.
     
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    A couple of them look like they are trying to hard to be hip. Specifically this one has too much irregularity, almost to the point of looking like a home ec project. It reminds me of the scenesters in Williamsburg. [​IMG]
     
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    airportlobby Senior member

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    you suck robert

    10 charac
     
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    I saw these at the store. The ones without the weird blots all over them are nice. The color and buttons are great, the fit slim and long-ish (great for tall guys). The material is heavy and doesn't seem to breathe very well, though, so I don't think they'd be comfortable during the summer or if you're gonna be active in them ie dancing.

    The ones w/ the blotting are just bizarre. I'm not sure what they were thinking with those: they just look defective more than anything else IMO.
     
  9. bluemagic

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    I see the mud look is getting popular.
     
  10. maltess

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    Any idea about the sizing on this? they still have a few left on sale

    cheers
     
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    Yeah I remember seeing these a couple months ago I was like "man these are great I'll take 4" but then I realized I need a lot more Junya in rotation before I can pull it off.
     
  12. Crane's

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    these look great, very nice tones in color. I wonder if the dye is retained through repeated washings or if they fade due to the type of dyeing process?

    This is something I know about. Without knowing the details of what they did as far as premordanting and mordanting the fabric before they dyed the shirts it is hard to say just how colorfast they are. My guess is they followed a typical recipe and process. Anyway natural dyes are nowhere near as colorfast as the more common chemical dyes used today.

    If you want to retain the color for as long as possible you hand wash these with a bit of woolite and hang dry them. If you do this you will get awesome fades. If you want to accelerate the process machine wash them cold on a gentle/delicate cycle with a bit of woolite and then hang dry them. You get the idea.

    Under no circumstance use anything with bleach in it. You will kill the shirt very quickly if you do. Another fallacy is using vinegar to set the color. DO NOT ever do this. Acids and bases are used to shift the color of natural dyes along with what's used in the mordanting stage. For instance I use Logwood to get a nice purple color. The dye is pH sensitive. If I shift the pH to the acid side I'll get a red earthtone.

    From what I've seen of these shirts my guess as to what they used to dye them would be Logwood, Brazilwood, and Fustic or Osage Orange wood. The mordant may be simple or it could be a complex blend of alum, tin and iron mordants. There's more than one way to skin a cat using natural dyes to get a certain color.

    This isn't the last time you'll see small lot naturally dyed shirts either. I'm 6 months into product testing and in a month or so a collab will be launched here with someone you all know.
     
  13. maltess

    maltess Senior member

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    This is something I know about. Without knowing the details of what they did as far as premordanting and mordanting the fabric before they dyed the shirts it is hard to say just how colorfast they are. My guess is they followed a typical recipe and process. Anyway natural dyes are nowhere near as colorfast as the more common chemical dyes used today.

    If you want to retain the color for as long as possible you hand wash these with a bit of woolite and hang dry them. If you do this you will get awesome fades. If you want to accelerate the process machine wash them cold on a gentle/delicate cycle with a bit of woolite and then hang dry them. You get the idea.

    Under no circumstance use anything with bleach in it. You will kill the shirt very quickly if you do. Another fallacy is using vinegar to set the color. DO NOT ever do this. Acids and bases are used to shift the color of natural dyes along with what's used in the mordanting stage. For instance I use Logwood to get a nice purple color. The dye is pH sensitive. If I shift the pH to the acid side I'll get a red earthtone.

    From what I've seen of these shirts my guess as to what they used to dye them would be Logwood, Brazilwood, and Fustic or Osage Orange wood. The mordant may be simple or it could be a complex blend of alum, tin and iron mordants. There's more than one way to skin a cat using natural dyes to get a certain color.

    This isn't the last time you'll see small lot naturally dyed shirts either. I'm 6 months into product testing and in a month or so a collab will be launched here with someone you all know.



    Any idea about the sizing?
     
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    Any idea about the sizing?

    No, not for this company. I wasn't involved in their project.
     
  15. g transistor

    g transistor Senior member

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    The blotting is the only interesting thing about these shirts.
     
  16. Miles Gloriosus

    Miles Gloriosus Senior member

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    I got confused. I was hoping for lace-ups that faded with wear.
     
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    I saw them in person yesterday. I didn't like them that much. They're going to make another bath soon. The newer versions won't have as much "irregularities".
     
  18. xM.

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    I like the idea. I'd be curious to try this myself, since I'm not really willing to pay $180 + 30 to ship one of these.
     

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