Having posted enough garbage in the last half hour to make this my 2,000th post, let me now explain the title and purpose of this thread. While "business casual" is much maligned, many well-dressed men are able to navigate the casualization of business attire without completely losing touch with the sartorial tradition of tailored clothing. I'm not talking about the guy over there in an untucked polo, khakis, and black sneakers. I'm talking about the guy with a casual sport coat, an OCBD without a tie, some chinos or flannels, and some well-made classic footwear. Which must be brown (hat tip to ). Very loosely speaking, this is kind of a still more casual version of English country daywear. I don't think the same vocabulary exists within evening wear. Traditional evening wear is black or white tie. I'll leave white tie aside completely. But what does black tie have to do with what is worn in the evening today in situations where neckwear would be inappropriate? At clubs we see the hated suit with no tie, sometimes even with a black dress shirt. Elsewhere at bars we see no jacket at all, which is too much of a departure from tradition to maintain any continuity. So what I'm trying to do here is come up with fits that maintain some of the elements of black tie, but without people around you asking "why are you so dressed up?" or "are you wearing a tuxedo?". It is simply a fact of modern life for most of us that we find ourselves in these situations frequently. I will leave to other threads to what degree it might be desirable to thumb our noses at modern turpitude and wear a tie, or even a dinner suit, anyway. It is certainly not my intention to argue that what is presented here is an improvement on black tie. It is merely an attempt at a compromise to bring some of the elegance of black tie to modern environments. So, the rules for fits in this thread: - No one should look at you and ask "why are you wearing a tuxedo?" or even "is that a tuxedo jacket" - No neckwear. Again, I just don't want to fight this battle in this thread. But as I'll explain, it will be clear that this is not something you wore to work, and therefore have no "excuse" for a tie. And nobody else where you're going will be wearing a tie. So let's just suppose you're the kind of person that doesn't want to be the only one wearing a tie when it's clear that you dressed specifically for this occasion. My conception of black tie: Black tie is for social situations. It is for relaxing, having a good time, drinking, dancing, and otherwise making merry with friends. It is NOT for work or business. It is louchey. As I consider shiny, sheeny ties to be far too garish for office wear, sheen on the level of the satin lapels of a dinner jacket or bows of an opera pump, or even on a white silk pocket square or evening scarf, or the velvet of a smoking jacket, to be solely for evening wear. So that's what we're going for here. These should be outfits that you could NOT wear to work. They are specifically for play. Suggestions to grab some of the elegance of black tie without looking overdressed: - White shirt only - Take inspiration from odd jacket/trouser combinations in traditional black tie - Evening footwear. Highly polished calf, black or navy only. Evening slippers or Belgians, velvet or suede (again only black or navy in the suede). Exotics can work too if that's your thing, since they shine. If your shoes have laces, consider swapping the factory ones for some silk flat laces. - Evening socks. Examples: Fit 1: - deep blue velvet jacket - white shirt - white silk square - black trousers - wholecut stingrays (picture of them is phenomenally shitty...they're black not green, and give off a nice luminescence in evening light...also I just got some evening laces that I meant to put on before this picture, but forgot) - evening socks (dark blue cotton/silk pick and pick...trying to keep any brands/shopping links out of this post, but if you want details, ask) Add a black or midnight blue bowtie, french cuffs and a stud set, and a waist covering and some braces, swap the shoes for well polished plain black calf wholecuts or some patent leather, slap some satin facings on the jacket, and it's a fully acceptable black tie rig. Certainly it's not something you'd ever wear to the office. The waist covering is a tough thing to overcome. There's no way to wear a cummerbund or an evening waistcoat casually. There are only two solutions I can think of, and this first might not be a solution. You could buy trousers or have them made with a silk-finished waistband. I think this is sufficiently unobtrusive that you could get it past people without comments. But I am not sure, as I own no such pants. Indeed I'm not even sure I've ever seen them in person. The second is easier, and is the traditional method of avoiding a waist covering which is to wear a double-breasted jacket: Fit 2: - linen DB cream jacket - white shirt - black with cream dots square (kind of unsure about this) - same black trousers - blue suede belgians - evening socks again, again cotton and silk, this time with a black/white pattern Same adjustments as before, except no need for a waist covering or lapel facings, and you've got something that could go for summer black tie. So that's black tie casual for me. What is it for you?