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Black suits/yay or nay

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by november, Sep 30, 2004.

  1. november

    november Well-Known Member

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    I have always heard that people should never buy black suits?
    Why is that? It seem slike dark gray should alwyas be preferred than black.
    Also, I remember trying a black suit and I was given an cream-coloured shirt and dark brown shoes to try on by the salesguy.
    I thought the combo was interesting one but I assume some would call this an heresy.
     
  2. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    I disagree. I think it depends on the fabric. A black wool with subtle pinstripes or chalkstripes makes for a beautiful suit that is just as wearable as a navy or charcoal one. Black gets a bad name sometimes because, if done badly, they can make you look like you're going to a funeral or you're an undertaker, waiter, or mobster. Notice how many politicians wear black suits -- they all seem to. Certainly Bush and Kerry like them, as they seem to look good on TV. They look bold.
     
  3. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

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    I love black suits. Black shoes though, lace up or monk strap. Armani does a one-button soft model, the jacket can be worn alternatively with Levis (C fabric, MTM about $1700). Prada does a black suit in stretch for $2060.
     
  4. water

    water Senior member

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    Here is another vote in favour of black suits.
     
  5. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    It depends on what you do.  In my opinion, the only individuals in the legal profession who should be wearing black are judges, so a nice navy or charcoal suit is much more useful to me than a black one.  If you are in a hipper profession such as advertising, a black suit might be a good addition to your wardrobe.
     
  6. housemaidsknee

    housemaidsknee Senior member

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    i believe black suits might be looked down upon for business in the most traditional places. that said, i've seen lots of people donning black suits for work now.
     
  7. JohnG

    JohnG Well-Known Member

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    For proffessional wear I agree with Mr. A. Chaser.

    It all depends on what you do AND the demographic area you live/work in

    One would "tailor" ( no pun intended.... yeah right) their selection differently in a mid sized town of "old money" or "conservative money" compared to say L.A. - New York - Miami etc.

    Also, as stated, even in hipper locals one usually would not expect a lawyer or Doctor ( talk about depressing.... point me to the morgue) to wear an all black suit during "bussiness hours".

    Still, there is nothing wrong with having a black suit for socializing. I have two. One solid black and one with silver laced through it.

    It is all in how you "accessorize". Even a gray haired light complected person can pull off the all black look with a well tailored suit and properly fitting shirt.

    Those types of enseembles are great for the unique cufflinks to be brought out. Its amazing how a pair of 'links can be the finishing touch to a suit and how many ladies NOTICE.

    My antique carved ivory elephant links or a couple of unique fiber optic pairs never fail to get comments with an all black look.

    If you feel you look good in a certain suit or certain color... BUY it.

    Maybe you cant wear it to work but you WILL find places to wear it. Its amazing how many "average joes" that turn into charisma machines in something the person feels they look good in. Its all about confidence and mindset.

    If you feel you look good you WILL be good. Think about it gents.

    Respectfully,
    John G.
     
  8. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    If I was on trial, and my lawyer walked in with a black suit, I would start considering the merits of soap-on-a-rope.

    That being said, I like a black suit for evenings.
     
  9. Leo Jay

    Leo Jay Senior member

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    I agree that fabric means a great deal with respect to this particular issue.  I can't imagine a black worsted that I'd ever wear, or even find tasteful on someone else. But I used to own a black doublebreasted (or perhaps it was the darkest imaginable charcoal?) that was very smart.

    Hah.

    But hey, not to worry -- sometimes those cheezy dressing scheisters are very effective... Did someone say Johnnie Cochran?
     
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    kidkim2 Senior member

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    LAGuy--LOL.

    November--Black, especially with an understated, widely-spaced pin- or chalkstripe, can be extraordinarily smart. (Probably not for most daytime uses, however.) And the shirt/tie combination your salesman suggested, IMO, rocks.
     
  12. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I have a couple black suits that I may wear from time to time, even during the day, but primarily at night, but all are pinstriped, one with a subtle blue pinstripe, one in subtle gold, and one in a bolder double white. I think it provides a good contrast and they are fairly wearable.
     
  13. Navy09

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    I have two black suits, in fact, I'm wearing one today. One is a very simple solid black and the other is black with blue pinstripes (the one I'm wearing). I'm also an attorney, so go figure, but do transactional law.

    I like wearing them with a very pale blue shirt, which I'm also doing today. In case you're curious, I'm wearing a cream colored textured tie with light and dark blue crossing stripes. Simple black socks and toe capped black shoes.

    I think it looks darn good.
     
  14. JohnG

    JohnG Well-Known Member

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    MR Navy09,

    I am curious sir. Would you wear either of those suits appearing before the judge? The scenario can be simply plaintiff/ defendant or a jury trial sir?

    DO you meet with clients when wearing those particualr suits ?

    Finally, are you in a larger metropolitan area please?

    ( I make no judgements either way sir. As I mentioned, I too have black suits, though for socializing. I am just curious of your views on clientelle interaction and the relationship of the color.)

    Respectfully,
    John G.
     
  15. kitonbrioni

    kitonbrioni Senior member

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    I have a Jil Sander black wool suit (with button fly pant--guess it's a good thing that when I was in the US Army they were still issuing button fly pants) that is just askew enough to not look overly formal or starchy.
     
  16. Brian SD

    Brian SD Senior member

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    I love black suits, especially of the jet variety, with dual vents and flat-front pants. No pinstripes for me.
     
  17. Zubberah

    Zubberah Senior member

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    Definite yes from me too. Black suits are all the rage in Sydney and have been for some time (especially on the under 40s). I have two from Gianni Versace (one very subtle herringbone patterned, one black with fine purple pinstripes) and one super 140s wool from Gucci. All beautiful looking suits and very, very versatile.
     
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    gorgekko Senior member

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    Add another vote for. I've never worn one in the day time but I do wear it occasionally weekend evenings when socializing. No tie.
     
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    Alias Senior member

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    Even though it's been said that Asian men look great in black, I don't like wearing it. Something about black just bugs me with its... achromaticism. (Is that even a word?) What I'm trying to say is, wearing black looks like I'm wearing a shadow, an empty void lacking in visual interest or detail. (I guess this is why dinner jackets have that neat grosgrain trim going on.) I'd rather prefer a dark charcoal grey. It's not so "flat."
     
  20. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I personally like the minimalism of a jet black suit... I almost recently bought a Brioni on ebay, but it got a little bit out of hand at the end [​IMG] I will probably pay a bit more for a navy/charcoal suit or something I will likely wear more often though.
     

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