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Black suit to interviews?

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by GreenFrog, May 23, 2011.

  1. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    I have an old suit that I've been wearing to all my interviews so far, but it's very ill-fitting and not slim, and since I have a slim figure, it just looks drapey. So.. I went out to H&M and bought a black, slim-fit suit for $80 and I think it fits pretty well. I hear though, that black suits for interviews are generally a bit too formal and that you only wear black suits to funerals, yadda yadda, etc. They did have a gray suit as well, but none in my size, so I just bought the black one. I do have a picture of it on (I apologize for the blurry pic). I'm wearing a very light blue shirt and a maroon-red tie with stripes: [​IMG] Could I get some comments on the fit and the appropriateness of black suits for interviews? I'm 6'1", 150 lbs. The jacket is a 36R and the pants are a 32R. My shirt size is 15.5" and 34" Thanks! Edit: I still have the tags on so I can return it if necessary.
     
  2. MrG

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    Like most of SF, I'm not a fan of black suits for much of anything, so I wouldn't advise it. That said, it's sort of irrelevant in this case, because that coat is way, way too short for you.
     
  3. indesertum

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    black suit dont matter in the real world.

    just wear what you got.


    all my friends here wear shitty ill fitting black suits with black square toe rubber sole shoes and get awesome jobs.


    only time you'll get a ding is if an styleforvm member is interviewing.
     
  4. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    Like most of SF, I'm not a fan of black suits for much of anything, so I wouldn't advise it. That said, it's sort of irrelevant in this case, because that coat is way, way too short for you.

    Damn. I tried the 38R and it was a bit too loose. Where should the coat fall to?
     
  5. indesertum

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    conservative suits should cover your ass

    some ppl say your fingers should be able to curl under the jacket


    i honestly dont think an average interviewer will be able to look at you and say your suit jacket is too short, no hire maybe (big maybe) unless you're applying to a banking or law firm
     
  6. GreenFrog

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    conservative suits should cover your ass

    some ppl say your fingers should be able to curl under the jacket


    i honestly dont think an average interviewer will be able to look at you and say your suit jacket is too short, no hire maybe (big maybe) unless you're applying to a banking or law firm


    I am applying for consulting firms and such. I have a phone interview coming up for Fidelity's internal strategy consulting group, and if I pass those then I get to go to an on-site interview. Not sure if Fidelity is conservative in that regard.

    Even though the jacket is really short (according to standards), I really like the way it fits, especially at its price point.
     
  7. DaveB

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    If your actually 6'1 I'm pretty sure you need a L and not a R.

    Anyways as long as you don't look like complete shit and stick to a pretty conservative color you should be fine. I do not think anyone is going to say they are not going to hire you because you wore a black suit, which in my experience is the most popular color choice for college grads for interviews.
     
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    A black suit is fine, Manton lives in fantasy-bubble-land when it comes to clothing. Just make sure it covers your gluteus maximus and that you wear shoes [​IMG] .
     
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    I actually think it's alright as is, except a little small. Momma always told me not to look like crap, but to look hungry for work. The suit should fit you, but out of a grad program or entry level, don't look like you have it made. Look like you are a starving student who is focused on the work rather than the toys and who doesn't have the vanity/playboy attitude most SFers have.
     
  10. GreenFrog

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    I guess it's a bit short in length.. the jacket reaches the midpoint of my butt. Unfortunately they had no Ls in the store and only had Rs; and, the smallest L is 38L. They don't have 36Ls. I guess I could tailor the 38L.

    Thanks for the input guys. Is there anything else besides the jacket length?
     
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    The problem is that the jacket is definitely too short, which you seem to already realize, and will have people making wisecracks about it behind your back. Personally, I find the pants too slim for an interview situation (though maybe I'll feel differently with a clearer pic). An interviewer might not be able to pinpoint the short jacket, slim pants, narrow lapels, and H&M fabric, but they'll know something is "off" about you. The HR person might not know the difference, but I bet the hiring manager at an organization like Fidelity will. Also, why the $80 budget for a suit? I'm not telling you to fly to Saville Row, but I have to think your future career has to be worth more than $80 to you. Personally, I'd gladly spend $1,000 on a never-to-be-worn-again custom cow suit with lactating udders if I thought it would give me some sort of edge on interviews.

    Of course, all IMHO.
     
  12. GreenFrog

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    The problem is that the jacket is definitely too short, which you seem to already realize, and will have people making wisecracks about it behind your back. Personally, I find the pants too slim for an interview situation (though maybe I'll feel differently with a clearer pic). An interviewer might not be able to pinpoint the short jacket, slim pants, narrow lapels, and H&M fabric, but they'll know something is "off" about you. The HR person might not know the difference, but I bet the hiring manager at an organization like Fidelity will. Also, why the $80 budget for a suit? I'm not telling you to fly to Saville Row, but I have to think your future career has to be worth more than $80 to you. Personally, I'd gladly spend $1,000 on a never-to-be-worn-again custom cow suit with lactating udders if I thought it would give me some sort of edge on interviews.

    Of course, all IMHO.


    Well, when I see it, I don't think it's short. I don't know the conventions to how a suit is supposed to fit. I'm just saying it's short because, well, everyone else is.

    Maybe I'll check out Zara tomorrow.
     
  13. GreenFrog

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    wow, yeah. after looking at WAYWT posts in the mc section, my jacket is terribly short.
     
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    Jacket length is too short and the sleeves are too short, it is just covered up by the fact that your shirt sleeves are too short also.
     
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    I guess it's a bit short in length.. the jacket reaches the midpoint of my butt. Unfortunately they had no Ls in the store and only had Rs; and, the smallest L is 38L. They don't have 36Ls. I guess I could tailor the 38L.

    Thanks for the input guys. Is there anything else besides the jacket length?


    I don't think I have ever seen a RTW 36L suit... Are you a true 36 or more like a 37? Because the alterations from a 38 to a 36 are pretty drastic. I should know, I've had it done when I was a 36, I'm sop happy I'm now a 38.
     
  16. GreenFrog

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    I don't think I have ever seen a RTW 36L suit... Are you a true 36 or more like a 37? Because the alterations from a 38 to a 36 are pretty drastic. I should know, I've had it done when I was a 36, I'm sop happy I'm now a 38.

    I bet I'm more of a true 37 or maybe 36.5. The 36 is ever so slightly tight, but definitely not bad at all. It fits a hell of a lot better than a 38.

    Now that I've brushed up on how a suit should fit properly, I'm going to head to Zara to see if there are any suits I like and fit.
     
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    I bet I'm more of a true 37 or maybe 36.5. The 36 is ever so slightly tight, but definitely not bad at all. It fits a hell of a lot better than a 38.

    Now that I've brushed up on how a suit should fit properly, I'm going to head to Zara to see if there are any suits I like and fit.


    What is your suit budget? Per suit I mean.
     
  18. GreenFrog

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    What is your suit budget? Per suit I mean.
    I mean.. I'd be willing to spend up to $500 for a nice custom suit, like Thick as Thieves.. but really, it all comes down to whether I'd be required to wear a suit for my job. Most jobs these days, or the ones I'm applying for at least, are more business casual, so a nice suit isn't as necessary in my eyes. If a suit is required, I'd spend maybe up to 2 grand for a nice one. That being said, I'd be willing to drop up to $350 or $400 for a suit.
     
  19. imageWIS

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    I mean.. I'd be willing to spend up to $500 for a nice custom suit, like Thick as Thieves.. but really, it all comes down to whether I'd be required to wear a suit for my job. Most jobs these days, or the ones I'm applying for at least, are more business casual, so a nice suit isn't as necessary in my eyes. If a suit is required, I'd spend maybe up to 2 grand for a nice one.

    That being said, I'd be willing to drop up to $350 or $400 for a suit.


    Depends where you live, but you could check out Filene's, C21, etc... and maybe find a decent 38 L and then have it tailored. If you were going to buy RTW at full price, something slim like Ralph Lauren Black Label is cut for your body. Even though its crappier, if you can find a drop 8 Z Zegna for a good price, that might be worth looking into as well.
     
  20. El Argentino

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    H&M suits may seem like a steal, especially if you're in an environment where suit-wearing isn't all that common. But H&M suits are basically hipsterwear meant for clubbing and getting crap spilled on them while girls rub themselves on your lap. It's not the best option in your arsenal for a job interview.

    I'd take the advice here of getting a decently priced suit that will be more versatile overall, and will last more than a year. Charcoal or deep navy, yada, yada, yada - I'm sure you've heard it before. Even a novice in a corporate setting can see the difference (I've had people called out where I work for wearing stuff that looks like crap - even in a "business casual" environment). Spend a bit, and get yourself a suit that will cover all bases. And then, if needs be, hang it up and never wear it again. But I promise you it will serve you more than something from H&M. Events will pop up where you may want to impress, and you won't be doing it in what you currently have.

    I don't mean to be harsh, but when I see kids come in the office in suits like this - extremely skinny silhouettes, with pointy faux-crocodile shoes, 1-inch wide black ties, and fat black belts with a buckle the size of Texas, I can't help but laugh. They look like American Idol contestants / hosts. No one like that has ever been hired. Details are fun, but go a bit more conservative. I'm not saying wear something big so it doesn't fit you, but in office-wear there's a difference between "tailored" and "skinny".

    Go with "tailored."

    Hope this helps at all.
     

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