Black shirts

[Flambeur]

Originally Posted by bbaquiran

I'm guessing they're bouncers. Friend of my fiancee runs an company of bouncers and security personnel. They all look like that.
No, they are gangsters. The shoes are too nice, some are too old, etc. I would guess Eastern Europe, the Balkans some former USSR republic, probably around the Black Sea region, Caucasus, etc. They look a little provincial. I would also guess the picture is taken within the past 5 years or so.

 

[Cary Grant]

Originally Posted by Thurston

A black dress shirt is never acceptable.


Balloney- what you really mean is you can't pull it off... (nor can I, nor most others...) but some do very well by it:

 

[Kas]

He's an older guy trying to look younger - with success. That doesn't mean everyone can pull that off. Moreoever, what tie can he really wear with this one? I can't think of any.

 

[Chigu]

So then why do people make black dress shirts???

It depends on the person, you can definitely pull it off with a grey suit. If you're young and go to a wedding reception you can wear the all black on black, with a really funky tie. I don't recommend that black on black for business though.

If a black shirt was REALLY that bad, they wouldn't sell em...

 

[Cary Grant]

Originally Posted by Kas

That doesn't mean everyone can pull that off.

I believe I just said that.

My point is- this is style we're talking about, there are no absolutes... so to say "never" is silly.

 

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by Chigu

If a black shirt was REALLY that bad, they wouldn't sell em...

This argument falls down as soon as you look at the whole host of other awful crap that people continue to buy...

 

[Doc4]

Originally Posted by Chigu

So then why do people make black dress shirts???

It depends on the person, you can definitely pull it off with a grey suit. If you're young and go to a wedding reception you can wear the all black on black, with a really funky tie. I don't recommend that black on black for business though.

If a black shirt was REALLY that bad, they wouldn't sell em...

They make them because people buy them. The same can be said for white leather skinny ties, black polyester suits and square-toed "dress" shoes.

Just because you CAN buy something doesn't mean you OUGHT TO buy it.

 

[Cary Grant]

Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum

This argument falls down as soon as you look at the whole host of other awful crap that people continue to buy...

SO his point really is true though- if THE GENERAL PUBLIC, thus the mass market thought it was bad, they wouldn't. The .001% who are as anal about fashion as we are don't count

 

[mkarim]

Originally Posted by Kas

He's an older guy trying to look younger - with success. That doesn't mean everyone can pull that off. Moreoever, what tie can he really wear with this one? I can't think of any.

Yes, Clooney seems to have nailed it!

 

[dsmolken]

Originally Posted by Flambeur

No, they are gangsters. The shoes are too nice, some are too old, etc.

I would guess Eastern Europe, the Balkans some former USSR republic, probably around the Black Sea region, Caucasus, etc. They look a little provincial. I would also guess the picture is taken within the past 5 years or so.
Very good guesses. They're Bulgarians, I think the photo is from the 1990s. That's the late Georgi Iliev and his associates.

Not that I'm an expert on mobs or anything. I just think the pigeons make it a great photo.

 

[Doc4]

Originally Posted by mkarim

Yes, Clooney seems to have nailed it!

... and nailed half the chicks in Hollywood.





The rest of us have zero chance of either.

 

[Musketer]

Great, now I can put the black shirt next to patent leather belt as expensive presents that can never be used.

 

[mishon]

Originally Posted by mkarim

With a suit, no, but it would go well with a grey blazer and dressy jeans for a casual look.
+1. This guy knows what he is talking about.

 

[0b5cur1ty]

Originally Posted by Cary Grant

My point is- this is style we're talking about, there are no absolutes... so to say "never" is silly.
+1

The hatred of black clothing is way overdone here.

 

[hadamulletonce]

Originally Posted by Cary Grant

Balloney- what you really mean is you can't pull it off... (nor can I, nor most others...) but some do very well by it:

I think the black dress shirt looks great in both pictures. I've added an additional with a gray suit. It could be that only George Clooney can pull it off.

I disagree with Kas that he's a older man trying to look young. He's definitely not using Just for Men.