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black shirt + tie

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Teen_Suit_Wearer, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    See how he is smacking himself on the head? That is because he realized he looks like an idiot.
     
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  2. SergioFM

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    That was the easy reply I was waiting for the moment I found the pic. Maybe it's the peer pressure that makes you all say it looks bad even though some of you secretly wish you could pull it off?
     
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  3. SergioFM

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    I was wearing smartass tees to work not even a month ago. I assure you that you don't sound patronizing at all. I have lots to learn.
     
  4. Gibonius

    Gibonius Senior member

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    I wouldn't think so. I suspect many of us have a black shirt hanging in their back of our closets somewhere, but now that we have a better training, can no longer find an application for it (certainly along with a tie). Out on the street, nobody would blink twice at it, but it just looks bad once you know how to process the effect.

    There is a reason, in terms of the visual effect, that many restaurants have their staff dress in that fashion. It is not because of how fashionable and sauve it makes them look.

    For that matter, few people here would ever recommend wearing a tie without a jacket. With the black shirt approach, you could only really wear a black jacket and then you're just exacerbating all the issues further.
     
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  5. SergioFM

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    Well, for a guy who used to wear nothing but black this is quite depressing to read. I need to always have something black or at least dark enough in my attire in order to feel comfortable.
     
  6. SergioFM

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    Sorry... double post.
     
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  7. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    They certainly do not. Every remotely formal dress-code requires a white shirt, dark/black shirts are not the least bit formal and should not be seen outside of nightclubs (and ideally not even then).
     
  8. EFV

    EFV Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You just might find yourself being the singer of an English "goth chick" garage band, and get laid a whole lot.

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    But then again, you most likely will not.
     
  9. Percy Trimmer

    Percy Trimmer Senior member

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    Black shirts are really only worn by doormen, members of dubious political organizations, and the clergy.

    In the 1960s some Church of England clergy of a liberal persuasion replaced the Rome collar with a black shirt and white tie. Alec Vidler, Dean of King's College, Cambridge, (shown here) was well known for the style.




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  10. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Ironically, he looks like a Satanist.
     
  11. malat

    malat Senior member

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    Will Smith seems to do it

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  12. SergioFM

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    Such a sad comment. Mens' dress code is so strict and boring. I wish we were as open minded as the ladies in this respect. This is exactly why I'm only coming around to the suit and tie world just now instead of five years ago.
     
  13. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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  14. SergioFM

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    Cut me some slack, at least I'm trying to embrace the sartorial world, unlike most of my peers at work [​IMG]
     
  15. Needsmoreshoes

    Needsmoreshoes Senior member

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    Friend of mine genuinely got mistaken for barstaff whilst wearing a black shirt and suit (I've tried to change his ways. Alas but to no avail) is that a situation you even want to risk happening?

    SergioFM - your day has come - go forth and be free (Post pics please).

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  16. SergioFM

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    Actually this threat is about black shirt and any color tie, not black shirt and black suit. In fact after doing some reading here in the forum I've been educated on the fact that your suit and shirt must be of different colors in order to have the contrast that creates the v-shape in the chest area. I accept this and I won't be wearing black suits with black shirts. Still, I don't see why wearing a gray suit would be OK with a white shirt and black tie combo and NOT OK with a black shirt and white tie combo since the contrast is maintained in both cases.
     
  17. unbelragazzo

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    The contrast is maintained, but switching the light and dark components is not without consequences. White shirt+black tie makes the tie like an arrow leading the observer's eye to the face (a good thing). The white tie doesn't really do the same thing, at least for me. Instead it attracts attention to the white tie/black shirt themselves (here in reference to a tie I'm using "white" as a stand in for really any light color, although some of these can be more successful than others).
     
  18. SergioFM

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    I agree. I was merely stating the point that if the blazer isn't black then it should be OK for the shirt to be black if one so wishes. Personally if I was to use a gray suit and black shirt I would use a medium blue or purple tie.
     
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  19. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    No.
     
  20. joeman

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    For me, it's fine to wear black shirt with a dark suit as long as the tie is of a different color.
     

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