Black Pocket Square with Black Tie

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  1. BrandOfAction

    BrandOfAction Well-Known Member

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    Quick question for the forum. I know that it's generally frowned upon to match your tie to your pocket square exactly, but I was wondering if there is some sort of exception when they're less prominent colors.

    I have a light gray suit that I'm planning to wear with a black tie. Unfortunately, I don't have a pocket square that would work that isn't solid black. Should I forgo the pocket square all together or do you think that this combination would work without being a major faux pas?

    Thanks for the advice!
     
  2. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Very simple answer - go out and buy one that does work. Hardly need to ask that question on the Internet.
     
  3. ter1413

    ter1413 Senior member

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    grey suit/black tie/white shirt(right?)
    black ps? no!
     
  4. BrandOfAction

    BrandOfAction Well-Known Member

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    No need to be crass about it. I've actually left for vacation already. Do you really think I would have asked if there was a possibility of buying a new one?

    As far as the shirt color goes, it's actually purple plaid.
     
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    Just leave out the pocket square rather than wearing an ugly combination.
     
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    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Probably wouldn't look right, but OP please post some pics so we can judge you.
     
  7. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    No square is better than a bad combo.

    But wouldn't plain white work?

    If you don't have a white square get one as soon as possible.
     
  8. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    I don't understand why one would ever own a black pocket-square to begin with. Especially if you don't already own a white linen square, which should've been the first one you bought.
     
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    +1 I find it hard to ever find a situation where this would look good. Throw the damn thing out . And you're telling me you can't do any shopping or find a clothing store on this vacation of yours? Either lose the square or just wear a white one
     
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    Master-Classter Senior member

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    I'll go against the grain here. I have a black PS. There's only one combo I wear it with, and thats a grey suit, black shirt shoes and belt, no tie. It's a going out for a night on the town look.

    as for your combo (purple check shirt), I'd rather not wear it there...
     
  11. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    Nothing wrong with a black square in and of itself. Sure there's a time and place to wear one.

    Would look fine with a black/white houndstooth tie. Although I must admit I like square and tie to relate to each other more than others would sometimes approve of.

    I do have a black and white plaid square in silk. I think it looks perfectly swell with a solid black grenadine tie.
     
  12. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Senior member

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    Why are you wearing a black tie?
     
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  13. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    Because I happen to like black? Because all rules are made to be broken now and again? Because I live and work in a professional culture (architecture/interior design) in which dressing entirely within the realm of CBD can actually be detrimental to one's reputation as a 'creative'.

    Or, most importantly, when making a design presentation which includes hundreds, if not thousands, of colors and textures mounted inside of 50 custom made black leather presentation boxes it seems appropriate and desirable to add not even a hint of 'personal color' to the presentation.

    As a matter of fact our employment contracts actually state the following attire for design presentations: Two piece suit, black or gray, white shirt, black or gray based tie with minimal pattern, black or gray socks and black shoes. No jewelry, including watches, of any sort other than wedding band and cufflinks without stones. I know this sounds rediculous. But we have found over the years that the rules for what is proper in various parts of the world are just too varied and thus we have found we are more successful if we specifically dress to 'remove' our attire from the equation during design presentations. When one is making a presentation in which one has invested nearly a million dollars of time and material cost it only seems wise to dress to receed. Given the fact that we are the world's leading firm at what we do, and that we employee 700 design professionals around the world I think one must respect that our methods are successful, if a bit annoying at times.

    Sorry to sound so snarky. I do completely understand the hatred of black around here. And that it is 'sartorially improper' during the day. But I do also contend there are occasions where rules can be broken both appropriately and successfully.

    For the record this 'ensemble' for me would be a medium gray flannel suit, white shirt, black grenadine tie, black and white plaid silk square (which is technically not allowed), black socks with white pindots, and black shoes.
     
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    HOK?
     
  15. Gdot

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    Nope - more interiors than architecture - but obviously I can't name names.
     

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