Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Fabienne, Jan 4, 2005.
If I say: "Black patent leather shoes", you say:
I say, "do you know where I can find a pair at 95% discount?"
Unnecessary, unless I plan to attend a Catholic girl's school.
I say: Excellent. But preferably in an oxford, rather than a pump. I also say: I'm trying to find a reason to order a pair, and a new tuxedo.
hmmmmm...... I really should get a pair for the odd times I need them, but I hate the thought of a pair of shoes that I wear 2-4 times a year......
I always stop and admire black patent leather shoes. Â I wonder why they are not worn more often. Â Too dressy, I suppose, and a host of other preconceived ideas?
Are they solely for formal occasions? Is it OK on a man attending a wedding who is not the groom?
they are fine any time you are wearing a tux, and you are not a waiter
Can one wear them in the evening with a dark suit (say black) even if it isn't black tie? And I don't think only wearing them a few times a year should hold you back, Globetrotter. It sets you apart from those who aren't wearing patent leather.
I think a pair of highly-polished calf shoes is preferable to the same pair in patent leather.
With regard to weddings, the focus should be on the bride and groom. Â As such, I try to dress respectfully while not competing sartorially. Â For weddings in different places and times, "respectful dress" can mean different things.
it's sort of like getting a couch - before you own a couch you can fit all your stuff in the back of your car. then one day you buy a couch and say "well, to hell with it, I have a couch, if I need to move I need to rent a truck, I might as well get a dinning room table". and that is the end of being a bachlor. I have held down the number of my shoes for years, when I get a pair of patent leather shoes the dam will have burst and I will find myself with a lot of shoes I only wear once or twice a year.
I find black patent leather slip-ons to be perfect for the smart but informal occasion. As a case in point, I wore my (D&G, very plain) pair to dine with friends in their home on New Year's Eve. Otherwise I wore a dull gold silk shirt, untucked, over a black silk long-sleeved tee shirt and flat-front black wool crepe trousers. Calf shoes (even my dancing pumps with the grosgrain bows) wouldn't have been right with the gold silk, I don't believe, and while my black velvet pumps might have worked visually, they are so analogous to slippers that I make a rule only to wear them in my own home.
As some of the other men were in jackets, none in ties, between the shirt and the shoes I felt appropriate to the occasion while being neither overdressed nor underdressed. And that's not a bad way to end, or begin, a year.
Worn only with evening dress in the UK.
I prefer the pump to the lace-up.
Bennies has a few pairs left.
Allen Edmonds makes what looks like a decent one.
There was a debate on here, a while back, and I don't know that it was resolved, but it concerned which shoe was more proper (and the discusison involved tradition, etc): the patent or the black calf (highly polished) -- I was inclined to believe the latter, though I've now read that patent leather (which was literally patented in the early 20th century I believe), has been around for a few hundred years.
Those who wouldn't wear a patent pump with black-tie are the same who woudl hesistate to wear a pink Brooks button-down oxford.
I say, black calf looks so much better... Love those babie's shoes, very funny
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