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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jerrysfriend, May 8, 2005.

  1. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    Royale with cheese?

    koji
     
  2. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    (RJMan @ May 09 2005,19:00) how do you say honkey in French?
    Royale with cheese? koji
    Ha ha... Les chaussures-loyer?
     
  3. alchimiste

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    "sale blanc" would be a possibility.
    "petit blanc" would be use in colonies against white colons.
    There is not so much... so either Americans are better at racism or I just lack racist vocabulary.
     
  5. imageWIS

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    Originally Posted by RJMan,May 09 2005,19:00
    how do you say honkey in French?
    Royale with cheese? koji
    I can just imagine Ernest in a partisan restaurant across from a man wearing brown saying: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been sayin' that s**t for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your a**. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a m***r before you popped a cap in his a**. But I saw some s**t this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. .45 here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous a** in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that s**t ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd. But, in French. Jon.
     
  6. mjs

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    TTN: Ernest

    You should go to askandy and look at marc_au's thread about baseball caps.

    He feels much more strongly about them than you do about brown hugo boss shoes and suits, if you'd believe it.
     
  7. alchimiste

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    Do you have a link to that thread?
     
  8. Steve B.

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    Jon:

    If you don't want to be censored, then leave the objectionable language out.

    You've been warned...

    Repeatedly...
     
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    (Horace @ May 09 2005,00:54)
    Must we constantly come back to only two topics on the forum? Have we lost all originality when Black and the One Who's Name I Shant Repeat are the only topics of interest left on the forum? Enough is ENOUGH. Jon.
    'line how is will thread out.'
    What? I'm not like an FCC bureaucrat; ad hominem attacks are no basis for a valid counterargument. I simply criticized the subject matter directly, not its posters directly, whereas you on the other hand... Jon.
    "how it will thread out" -- is what I meant to type. I may be the first to use "thread" in this sense as a verb. You didn't put forth an argument, really. You didn't even criticize the subject matter directly, as you assert. So to "counter" your argument or lack thereof isn't a concern; and as for ad hominem attacks, they aren't in and of themselves an invalid form of argument. But since you weren't really arguing anything, but rather just carping: if I were to have made one, it would have been entirely appropriate here. Before you throw around a phrase, learn what it means and how to use it. (And no, reading some tutorial on the internet doesn't count, nor does the misuse of the term by lawyerly example). Two things more things: first, we know you're not an FCC bureacrat. Strictly speaking, I didn't call you one. I employed a simile. Second, I'm not going to hold you by the hand and take you through Quintillian, but your original post is an "ad homines" argument. I say enough is enough when it comes to misusing Latin.
     
  11. JBZ

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    Wow. Okay. Guess I'll go home and throw my black trousers away. I hate it when my entire world gets turned upside down like this.

    As an aside, this entire thread reminds me of an old SNL skit with Chevy Chase and Richard Prior. Chase is interviewing Prior for a job, and decides to play "word association." This begins like "hot - cold", "day - night", etc., and then Chase says "Black", to which Prior responds "White". This escalates with various racial epithets until Chase has Prior screaming "honkey, honkey.". Chase then uses the "n" word, to which Prior responds "DEAD Honkey." Probably not too funny in print, but worth seeing.
     
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    (imageWIS @ May 09 2005,14:19)
    Must we constantly come back to only two topics on the forum? Have we lost all originality when Black and the One Who's Name I Shant Repeat are the only topics of interest left on the forum? Enough is ENOUGH. Jon.
    'line how is will thread out.'

    What? I'm not like an FCC bureaucrat; ad hominem attacks are no basis for a valid counterargument. I simply criticized the subject matter directly, not its posters directly, whereas you on the other hand... Jon.
    "how it will thread out" -- is what I meant to type. I may be the first to use "thread" in this sense as a verb. You didn't put forth an argument, really. You didn't even criticize the subject matter directly, as you assert. So to "counter" your argument or lack thereof isn't a concern; and as for ad hominem attacks, they aren't in and of themselves an invalid form of argument. But since you weren't really arguing anything, but rather just carping: if I were to have made one, it would have been entirely appropriate here. Before you throw around a phrase, learn what it means and how to use it. (And no, reading some tutorial on the internet doesn't count, nor does the misuse of the term by lawyerly example). Two things more things: first, we know you're not an FCC bureacrat. Strictly speaking, I didn't call you one. I employed a simile. Second, I'm not going to hold you by the hand and take you through Quintillian, but your original post is an "ad homines" argument. I say enough is enough when it comes to misusing Latin.
    You really must read your posts and my responses because they don't hold water. A perfect example is: I said "I'm not like an FCC bureaucrat" to which you responded "first, we know you're not an FCC bureacrat. Strictly speaking, I didn't call you one. I employed a simile." Your response towards my statement in which I said I am not "˜LIKE' an FCC bureaucrat was that you employed a simile, which states that I wrote that I was like an FCC bureaucrat, which is not what I wrote. Jon.
     
  13. imageWIS

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    I've never seen black odd trousers on anyone (with a shred of style sense) but waiters.
    Wow. Okay. Guess I'll go home and throw my black trousers away. I hate it when my entire world gets turned upside down like this. As an aside, this entire thread reminds me of an old SNL skit with Chevy Chase and Richard Prior. Chase is interviewing Prior for a job, and decides to play "word association." This begins like "hot - cold", "day - night", etc., and then Chase says "Black", to which Prior responds "White". This escalates with various racial epithets until Chase has Prior screaming "honkey, honkey.". Chase then uses the "n" word, to which Prior responds "DEAD Honkey." Probably not too funny in print, but worth seeing.
    That was a funny skit. [​IMG] Yes apparently Brown is for FARMER and black trousers are for NO ONE. Jon.
     
  14. RJman

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    (Thracozaag @ May 09 2005,22:13)
    how do you say honkey in French?
    Royale with cheese? koji
    I can just imagine Ernest in a partisan restaurant across from a man wearing brown saying: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been sayin' that s**t for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your a**. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a m***r before you popped a cap in his a**. But I saw some s**t this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. .45 here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous a** in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that s**t ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd. But, in French. Jon.
    Le sentier de l'homme juste se voit assiege par les inequites de l'egoiste et la tyrannie de l'homme mechant. Beni soit celui qui, au nom de la charite et de la bienveillance, conduit tel le berger les faibles a travers la vallee de l'ombre. Car il est vraiment le gardien de son frere et le trouveur de l'enfant perdu. Et je te frapperai en vengeance grande et furieuse, toi qui tentent d'empoisonner et de detruire mes freres. Et tu sauras que je suis le Seigneur quand j'impose ma vengeance sur toi. J'ai raconte cette connerie depuis des annees. Et si jamais tu l'entends, ca veut dire t'es foutu. Je ne me suis jamais vraiment demande qu'est-ce que ca voulait dire. Je croyais que ce n'etait que quelque chose d'inhumain pour dire avant de flinguer un pauvre con. Or ce bordel ce matin m'a fait reflechir. Ce pourrait etre toi qui es le mechant. Et moi qui suis l'homme juste. Et voici M. .45 qui pourrait etre le berger qui protege mon cul de juste dans le val de l'ombre. Ou ce pourrait etre toi l'homme juste et moi le berger et c'est le monde qui est mechant et egoiste. J'aimerais bien ca. Mais ce sont des conneries. La verite, c'est que c'est toi le faible. Et moi je suis la tyrannie des mechants. Or j'essaie, Rigno. J'essaie de mon mieux d'etre le berger.
     
  15. imageWIS

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    (imageWIS @ May 09 2005,19:52)
    how do you say honkey in French?
    Royale with cheese? koji

    I can just imagine Ernest in a partisan restaurant across from a man wearing brown saying: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been sayin' that s**t for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your a**. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a m***r before you popped a cap in his a**. But I saw some s**t this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. .45 here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous a** in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that s**t ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd. But, in French. Jon.
    Le sentier de l'homme juste se voit assiege par les inequites de l'egoiste et la tyrannie de l'homme mechant. Beni soit celui qui, au nom de la charite et de la bienveillance, conduit tel le berger les faibles a travers la vallee de l'ombre. Car il est vraiment le gardien de son frere et le trouveur de l'enfant perdu. Et je te frapperai en vengeance grande et furieuse, toi qui tentent d'empoisonner et de detruire mes freres. Et tu sauras que je suis le Seigneur quand j'impose ma vengeance sur toi. J'ai raconte cette connerie depuis des annees. Et si jamais tu l'entends, ca veut dire t'es foutu. Je ne me suis jamais vraiment demande qu'est-ce que ca voulait dire. Je croyais que ce n'etait que quelque chose d'inhumain pour dire avant de flinguer un pauvre con. Or ce bordel ce matin m'a fait reflechir. Ce pourrait etre toi qui es le mechant. Et moi qui suis l'homme juste. Et voici M. .45 qui pourrait etre le berger qui protege mon cul de juste dans le val de l'ombre. Ou ce pourrait etre toi l'homme juste et moi le berger et c'est le monde qui est mechant et egoiste. J'aimerais bien ca. Mais ce sont des conneries. La verite, c'est que c'est toi le faible. Et moi je suis la tyrannie des mechants. Or j'essaie, Rigno. J'essaie de mon mieux d'etre le berger.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Jon.
     
  16. alchimiste

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    « Le sentier de l'homme juste est assailli de toutes parts par les iniquitÃ[​IMG]s de l'Ã[​IMG]goïste et la tyrannie de l'homme malfaisant. BÃ[​IMG]ni celui qui, au nom de la charitÃ[​IMG] et de la bonne volontÃ[​IMG], est le berger des faibles à travers la vallÃ[​IMG]e de l'ombre. Car il est vraiment le gardien de son frère et le trouveur d'enfants perdus. Et je te terrasserai en vengeance formidable et ire furieuse ceux qui tentent d'empoisonner et de dÃ[​IMG]truire mes frères. Et tu sauras que je suis le Seigneur quand je t'imposerai ma vengeance. » Je raconte ces conneries depuis des annÃ[​IMG]es. Et si jamais tu les as entendues, ça veut dire que t'es foutu. Je n'ai jamais vraiment mis en doute ce que ça voulait dire. Je pensais que c'Ã[​IMG]tait juste un truc inhumain à dire avant de buter un pauvre con. Mais le bordel que j'ai vu ce matin m'a fait rÃ[​IMG]flÃ[​IMG]chir. Maintenant j'me dis : ça veut peut-être dire que tu es l'homme malfaisant. Et que je suis l'homme juste. Et M. .45 là, il est le berger protÃ[​IMG]geant ma peau de juste dans la vallÃ[​IMG]e de l'ombre. Ou peut-être que tu es l'homme juste et moi le berger et c'est le monde qui est malfaisant et Ã[​IMG]goïste. J'aimerais bien ça. Mais c'est des conneries. La vÃ[​IMG]ritÃ[​IMG], c'est que c'est toi le faible. Et moi je suis la tyrannie des hommes malfaisants. Mais j'essaie, Ringo. J'essaie sincèrement d'être le berger.

    A text with heads and tails would be easier to translate of course.
     
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    (imageWIS @ May 09 2005,19:52)
    how do you say honkey in French?
    Royale with cheese? koji

    I can just imagine Ernest in a partisan restaurant across from a man wearing brown saying: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been sayin' that s**t for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your a**. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a m***r before you popped a cap in his a**. But I saw some s**t this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. .45 here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous a** in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that s**t ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd. But, in French. Jon.
    Le sentier de l'homme juste se voit assiege par les inequites de l'egoiste et la tyrannie de l'homme mechant. Â Beni soit celui qui, au nom de la charite et de la bienveillance, conduit tel le berger les faibles a travers la vallee de l'ombre. Â Car il est vraiment le gardien de son frere et le trouveur de l'enfant perdu. Â Et je te frapperai en vengeance grande et furieuse, toi qui tentent d'empoisonner et de detruire mes freres. Â Et tu sauras que je suis le Seigneur quand j'impose ma vengeance sur toi. Â J'ai raconte cette connerie depuis des annees. Â Et si jamais tu l'entends, ca veut dire t'es foutu. Â Je ne me suis jamais vraiment demande qu'est-ce que ca voulait dire. Â Je croyais que ce n'etait que quelque chose d'inhumain pour dire avant de flinguer un pauvre con. Â Or ce bordel ce matin m'a fait reflechir. Â Ce pourrait etre toi qui es le mechant. Â Et moi qui suis l'homme juste. Â Et voici M. .45 qui pourrait etre le berger qui protege mon cul de juste dans le val de l'ombre. Â Ou ce pourrait etre toi l'homme juste et moi le berger et c'est le monde qui est mechant et egoiste. Â J'aimerais bien ca. Â Mais ce sont des conneries. Â La verite, c'est que c'est toi le faible. Â Et moi je suis la tyrannie des mechants. Â Or j'essaie, Rigno. Â J'essaie de mon mieux d'etre le berger.
    NIce translation.
     
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    « Le sentier du juste est assailli de toutes parts par les iniquitÃ[​IMG]s de l'Ã[​IMG]goïsme et de la tyrannie. BÃ[​IMG]ni soit celui qui, au nom de la charitÃ[​IMG] et de la bonne volontÃ[​IMG], est le berger des faibles à travers la vallÃ[​IMG]e des tÃ[​IMG]nèbres. Car il est vraiment le gardien de son frère et celui qui trouve les enfants perdus. Et je terrasserai en une formidable vengeance et une ire furieuse ceux qui tentent d'empoisonner et de dÃ[​IMG]truire mes frères. Et tu sauras que je suis le Seigneur quand tu subiras ma vengeance. » Je raconte ces conneries depuis des annÃ[​IMG]es. Et si jamais tu les entendais, ça voulait dire que t'Ã[​IMG]tais foutu. Je n'ai jamais vraiment mis en doute ce que ça voulait dire. Je pensais que c'Ã[​IMG]tait juste un truc inhumain à dire avant de buter un pauvre con. Mais le bordel que j'ai vu ce matin m'a fait rÃ[​IMG]flÃ[​IMG]chir. Maintenant j'me dis : ça veut peut-être dire que tu es l'homme malfaisant. Et que je suis l'homme juste. Et M. .45 là, il est le berger protÃ[​IMG]geant ma peau de juste dans la vallÃ[​IMG]e des tÃ[​IMG]nèbres. Ou peut-être que tu es l'homme juste et moi le berger et c'est le monde qui est malfaisant et Ã[​IMG]goïste. J'aimerais bien ça. Mais c'est des conneries. La vÃ[​IMG]ritÃ[​IMG], c'est que c'est toi le faible. Et moi je suis la tyrannie des hommes malfaisants. Mais j'essaie, Ringo. J'essaie sincèrement d'être le berger.

    Just a little reworking....don't have time for more but it was pretty good. BTW I got a french track on my DVD if somebody thinks it's really important....which I doubt.
     

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