Black cordovan whole cut or PTB?

[indianshaft]

I am looking to purchase a pair of black cordovan whole cut shoes. I don't know if these even exist. Can anyone recommend how I could get my hands on a pair of these? I have seen the Carmina whole cuts but am not clear if they come in black or if I could order them being in the US.

If these are going to require some sort of MTO or bespoke process are there any recommendations on a black cordovan PTB that could be worn with business clothes? I am not the biggest fan of the ALDEN PTB toe area. Looking for something a little sleeker. Thanks for the help.

Is there somewhere I can buy these? http://www.carminashoemaker.com/web...,70,71,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,83,84,85,86

 

[ncdobson]

I think that the Leather Soul Alden Nassau looks a lot sleeker than the standard PTB.

 

[ASH007]

You can find a black cordovan from Allen Edmonds with double sole. However its not a whole cut.

 

[ncdobson]

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I am looking to purchase a pair of black cordovan whole cut shoes. I don't know if these even exist. Can anyone recommend how I could get my hands on a pair of these? I have seen the Carmina whole cuts but am not clear if they come in black or if I could order them being in the US.
If these are going to require some sort of MTO or bespoke process are there any recommendations on a black cordovan PTB that could be worn with business clothes? I am not the biggest fan of the ALDEN PTB toe area. Looking for something a little sleeker. Thanks for the help.
Is there somewhere I can buy these?

http://www.carmina.telemaco.es/articulo.asp?idarticulo=3640208

Someone on the B/S forum is selling Carminas w/ the suggestion that a Carmina 10 = US10.5, but I can't confirm that. They look great & are supposed to be superbly crafted.