Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by drizzt3117, Sep 30, 2004.
Is this made by Kiton? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....22&rd=1
Looks like Brioni or D'Avenza to me; but I'd need to see the inside label to be sure. koji
Cheap, yes. Old also. It looks to me like that gorge is way low for a modern suit. Also, it could have gone through a considerable amount of wear. Things are priced the way they are for a reason.
The item is supposed to be a sportjacket in a size 44R. Note that the length is only 31". Because of the stripes, it looks like the jacket from a suit. If you bought it, you might have to explain to your office staff why you no longer have the pants.
You can see by the ebaY feedback this is a very reliable seller...
It's cheap-ish because it's probably an orphaned suit coat, but I've seen the "kids" wearing much stranger things lately.
I know this seller and his reputation is first class. He has some good stuff and will take care of you.
If that Super 100's label on the top right is from the jacket pictured, then the jacket was made by D'Avenza. That label is used exclusively in D'Avenza clothing. You'll notice the same label in most of the sellers Bijan auctions, because they are mostly D'Avenza. Although I saw at least one made by Isaia and another by Brioni.
I have a question for you Andrew. This coat belongs to me and I have examined it in great detail. The inside pocket tag is clearly identical to that of a Kiton. I have held them side by side for comparison. Is it really feasible or fair for that matter for you to critique my items when you have never seen them in person? I guess it is safe to assume you are the person reporting my auctions to ebaY? Just so you know one of your best customer's was waiting till the end to purchase two of those items and when they were cancelled for the fourth time he became rather upset and wants to know why someone would keep doing this? By the way folks I sell only top quality items and boast a 99.9% feedback rating.
Thank you very very much for the vote of confidence Jill... You guys continue to be among the finest out there... Keep up the fabulous work.
Godblessed - Andrew was quite clear in his statement. If the label is from the advertised jacket then it is a D`Avenza, and why that is the case. I saw nothing that was critical at all. Next, your assumption that Andrew is reporting you to e-Bay, may or may not be true. But to accuse someone in a public forum without proof is in the worst possible taste. Back it up or apologize. Andrew gave his honest opinion based on the information available, if you'd like to dispute the opinion, please provide additional information. You may want to up the quality of your e-bay auctions by providing all the information and pictures of inside tags, etc only from the item listed to avoid such misunderstandings in the future.
Of course it is.
In fact, that is the primary reason we are here -- to gain from each other's experience and knowledge. Furthermore, the original poster asked for said critique and received specifically what he asked for. To support your view, you should also contend that it is neither 'feasible nor fair' for drizzt to have even asked about your jacket here. Either claim is equally unreasonable, for that means buyers ought to trust sellers implicitly.
-- Edited to remove comments that are no longer germane.
While I understand your reaction to a percieved attack, I think that Andrew is pretty much the authority on this forum re. tailored brands, (Manton in the authority on tailored clothing in general) and his opinions were neither malicious nor even an attack - just his opinion on a label. I don't know who has been getting your auctions cancelled, but I imagine that the objection is to the percieved spamming in your title. It's not clear from the body of your auction what Kiton has to do with the suit. Perhaps a mention that you believe that Kiton made this suit is needed in both the title and the body of the auction.
Like the guys said, my statement is based on the inclusion of a D'Avenza tag in the auction. If it is indeed Kiton, let's see the pic of the inside tag. If you claim your items to be made by Kiton, you should be willing and ready to back it up, as I am when I sell private-label goods. That's why I keep an extensive file of pictures of manufacturers tags. And as i've told you before via email , I have nothing to do with your auctions being ended by ebay. You need to stop pointing fingers and accept that the auctions are in clear violation of their listing policies. (For those who are wondering about the prior communication, I had informed this seller previously that if the labels posted in the auction are from the suits he's selling, then the suits aren't Kiton.) edit - actually, now that I think about it, I first contacted him because he had them listed as 'Kiton by Bijan' and I wanted to let him know that Kiton was a maker and Bijan a store, not the other way around...
To back up MY statement: Note the same fabric, exact same script, same stitching style of this label and the one in the Bijan auction.
Dont even bother trying... You know that you have lost all your credibility with us Andrew... (Of course that is aside from your report on my store) JJF
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