Biggest social changes in last 40 years

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  1. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

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    Actually, to be completely serious, I do think that it's a problem that people generally get a pass on racism as long as they keep it PC and know how to vocalize it. It was my main problem with Crash--the movie missed what I consider to be the really crucial point, which is that plenty of people are still racist, but in most parts of the US they've learned how to mask it, without actually addressing their racism itself. Still, it's better than nothing.
    That is exactly the problem. It seems that a social explosion in the manner of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" would be fitting. Sort of a "Straw Dogs" moment.
     


  2. kennethpollock

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    Despite what textbooks like to portray, lynchings didn't occur very frequently. However, when they did, they were ultimately obscene.

    I am not sure about this, but my impression is that most lynchings involved mobs breaking into jails to pull out accused murderers or rapists and give them "mob justice," due to fears that the regular legal processes would move too slowly or some crooked lawyer would get them off.

    The most infamous Georgia lynching was that of Leo Frank. He was the Jewish owner of a pencil factory, convicted of raping and killing an employee. He was sentenced to die, but his sentence was reduced to life imprisonment. That is when a mob broke into the jail, seized him and lynched him near Marietta, Georgia. It was later determined that someone else had probably committed the crime.

    This is gruesome, a warning.
    http://ngeorgia.com/feature/littlesecrets.html
     


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    I am not sure about this, but my impression is that most lynchings involved mobs breaking into jails to pull out accused murderers or rapists and give them "mob justice," due to fears that the regular legal processes would move too slowly or some crooked lawyer would get them off.

    The most infamous Georgia lynching was that of Leo Frank. He was the Jewish owner of a pencil factory, convicted of raping a killing an employee. He was sentenced to die, but his sentence was reduced to life imprisonment. That is when a mob broke into the jail, seized him and lynched him near Marietta, Georgia. It was later determined that someone else had probably committed the crime.

    Yes, the sort of vigilante "justice" that mob mentalities inevitably breed. As well, the masses would storm into the homes of blacks who they believed had kissed a white female or some such, and then lynch the person.

    Leo Frank's case was very infamous as was Emmett Till's lynching.
     


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    In any event, I think life is better now for most people than it was 40 years ago. I think even most WASPs must be doing better now.
     


  5. Nantucket Red

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    I am 65. A lot has changed in the USA and it is hard to get used to some of them. They include, IMO, in no particular order:
    (a) Decline in standards of dress
    (b) Decline in manners
    (c) More sexual openness and a decline in morals, due to a perversion of women's liberation and the pill, IMO
    (d) Less open racism and segregation (about the same, but mostly hidden now) and more political correctness
    (e) Death of the inner part of almost all American cities (what little is left in most is mostly government offices and government built structures like libraries, sports arenas, etc.) due, IMO, to white flight and the automobile. This is hard for me to accept. I am an urbanite, but now, except for NY, I have to go to Europe to enjoy the pleasures of central city strolling, window shopping, etc.
    (f) Loss of influence of the Church and religion (40 years ago, American ministers would have demanded and gotten the resignation of Bill Clinton)
    (g) More gadgets such as computers, cell-phones, etc.
    (h) More immigrants (illegal and legal)


    You certainly seem to have a limited love of life. You remind me of a grown-up Eric Cartman.
     


  6. kennethpollock

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    You certainly seem to have a limited love of life. You remind me of a grown-up Eric Cartman.


    "Cartman (usually only addressed by his last name) is spoiled, foul-mouthed, ill-tempered, insensitive, manipulative, sadistic, greedy – and considerably obese (thus giving rise to the pejorative names "fat ass" or "ass master" by which he is often referred). It can also be assumed he is a sociopath as he told the Guidance Counselor Mr. Mackey that he finds people dying funny. Generally speaking, he has exhibited at one time or another every negative trait that can be found in a human being, or expressed a desire to do so."

    One problem I have with the forums is that some who do not like the message can think of nothing but to personally attack the messenger.
    Furthermore, this personal attack is partly wrong. I deny being fat.
     


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    In any event, I think life is better now for most people than it was 40 years ago. I think even most WASPs must be doing better now.

    I think that for many the standard of living is higher, but the quality of life is lower. For example, a person who has a home burgular alarm system has a higher standard of living than one who does not. But if the latter does not really need such a system, he has a higher quality of life.
     


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    40 years ago, you would never have met your soul mate ernest. How is he, anway, apart from being b****d? [​IMG]
     


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    40 years ago, you would never have met your soul mate ernest. How is he, anway, apart from being b****d?
    "Hello my name is Ernest, can I take your order please"
     


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    "Hello my name is Ernest, can I take your order please"
    "Will work for Hildeetch"
     


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    "Will work for Hildeetch"

    He needs a new modem, so we have been mostly out of touch. He borrows someone else's sometimes.
    However, I am forwarding these slanders onto E*****t (banned). I will post his scathing replies when I get them.
     


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    Actually, to be completely serious, I do think that it's a problem that people generally get a pass on racism as long as they keep it PC and know how to vocalize it. It was my main problem with Crash--the movie missed what I consider to be the really crucial point, which is that plenty of people are still racist, but in most parts of the US they've learned how to mask it, without actually addressing their racism itself. Still, it's better than nothing.
    I agree with your main point, but wasn't that at least in part where they were trying to go with the white cop who ends up shooting the black kid he gives a ride to? That the cop goes to great lengths to present himself as liberal/pc/whatever to the rest of the world, and maybe even to himself, but at bottom is himself influenced by racial prejudice?
     


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    "Cartman (usually only addressed by his last name) is spoiled, foul-mouthed, ill-tempered, insensitive, manipulative, sadistic, greedy – and considerably obese (thus giving rise to the pejorative names "fat ass" or "ass master" by which he is often referred). It can also be assumed he is a sociopath as he told the Guidance Counselor Mr. Mackey that he finds people dying funny. Generally speaking, he has exhibited at one time or another every negative trait that can be found in a human being, or expressed a desire to do so."

    One problem I have with the forums is that some who do not like the message can think of nothing but to personally attack the messenger. But this attack is wrong. I deny being fat.

    Cartman: "I'm not fat - I'm big-boned!" [spelling fixed]
    Hmm, the plot thickens.
     


  14. kennethpollock

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    No one has commented on this:

    "(e) Death of the inner part of almost all American cities (what little is left in most is mostly government offices and government built structures like libraries, sports arenas, etc.) due, IMO, to white flight and the automobile. This is hard for me to accept. I am an urbanite, but now, except for NY, I have to go to Europe to enjoy the pleasures of central city strolling, window shopping, etc."

    What do you think of the Mall as a replacement for downtowns in the USA?
     


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    I think that for many the standard of living is higher, but the quality of life is lower. For example, a person who has a home burgular alarm system has a higher standard of living than one who does not. But if the latter does not really need such a system, he has a higher quality of life.
    We had a burglar alarm system and I hated the friggin' thing. Our standard of living has become much higher after we ripped the stupid thing out and got a dog.
     


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