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Best ties for a thick beautiful knot of soft silk?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by AvariceBespoke, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. AvariceBespoke

    AvariceBespoke Senior member

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    7-fold? not-7 fold?
    kiton, armani, brioni, zegna, hermes????

    I like wearing a large knot & I am 6'1" - 6'2" so has to be long enough for nice knot and to drape properly on my body.

    I picked up a beautiful armani tie last night - the silk was incredibly soft and thick pattern was very nice
     
  2. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Stefano Ricci. A four-in-hand will look like a gorilla fist.
     
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    awxg Senior member

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    ^ that

    They are ridiculous slabs of tie meat.

    I don't have any Kiton, Brioni, or Hermes so I don't know how they compare.
     
  4. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant Senior member

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    Not nearly as chunky as mentioned above but Seaward and Stearn and Dion both make ties of thicker silks that tie up a fair-sized knot.
     
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    RJmanbearpig Senior member

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    Not nearly as chunky as mentioned above but Seaward and Stearn and Dion both make ties of thicker silks that tie up a fair-sized knot.

    Good idea. The OP needs to get some Seaman & Spearn around his neck.
     
  6. djf881

    djf881 Well-Known Member

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    7-fold? not-7 fold?
    kiton, armani, brioni, zegna, hermes????

    I like wearing a large knot & I am 6'1" - 6'2" so has to be long enough for nice knot and to drape properly on my body.

    I picked up a beautiful armani tie last night - the silk was incredibly soft and thick pattern was very nice


    I think Hermes are thin like Ferragamos. I have a couple of Ferragamo ties and they make a nice knot, but since the silk is thin, it doesn't tend to make a big knot. If you threw a double windsor or something into one of those, it would be pretty big, but I am not sure it would still be long enough, especially on a taller guy.

    Borrelli makes seven-fold ties and when I put a half-windsor into one of those, it's substantially larger than the same knot in a Ferragamo.

    I think there is someone who makes six-fold ties to order and posts on here. I have not bought his ties, but other posters really dug his stuff.
     
  7. innova

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    Stefano Ricci. A four-in-hand will look like a gorilla fist.

    I went to Saks today with this quote in my head to find some ties. I wasn't able to find any Ricci, but was able to pick up a Brioni and a Behar. If anyone is wondering why people use a FIH knot, these ties will show you why. The difference is amazing and worth twice the price. I found myself tying FW's just to get some heft, but the FIH with some meat on the tie is fantastic. I think if I tried a FW with these I wouldn't be able to see over them.

    Thanks to mafoofan.
     
  8. tlmusic

    tlmusic Senior member

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    Most English made ties will tie a nice thick knot. Turnbull and Asser is a good brand for that. Also Cravats of London and Harvie and Hudson.

    Irrespective of brands, certain types of ties will likely tie thick knots:
    Seven Fold Ties
    Grenadine Ties
    Woven Ties usually tie a fuller knot than printed silk ties.

    Also, check out Charles Alexander, a SF member that makes limited edition runs of seven-fold ties.
     
  9. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    Also, check out Charles Alexander, a SF member that makes limited edition runs of seven-fold ties.

    +1

    The 'Brockwell' is the thickest tie I own, and ties a beautiful knot.
     
  10. AvariceBespoke

    AvariceBespoke Senior member

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    +1

    The 'Brockwell' is the thickest tie I own, and ties a beautiful knot.


    unfortunately its been out of stock [​IMG]
     
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    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    kaxixi Senior member

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    Talbott 7-fold. The patterns tend to be big and bold, too.
     
  13. AvariceBespoke

    AvariceBespoke Senior member

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    Tom Ford

    ya
     
  14. Mr Engineer

    Mr Engineer Senior member

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    this
     
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    RDiaz Senior member

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    Holy necrobump Batman...

    For non-seven folds, my 3-fold E.G. Cappelli ties make a quite chunky FIH, and it comes out nice and perfect every time.
     
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    To reiterate - Tom Ford, Stefano Ricci and Brioni. I prefer a slightly larger knot that dimples easily, and these three will always deliver. I imagine what you're looking for is a tie that's 3.5" wide but most importantly retains its width as you progress upward along the tie to where your knot will be formed. I find that many tie makers (Brooks Brothers, for example) get too skinny too fast, and I'm unable to achieve a decent knot with them. This is also true of Hermes and Ferragamo.
     
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  17. Holdfast

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    Stefano Ricci ties make insanely fat knots; I have two and hardly ever wear them. The silk is really lush to the touch, but the knots are just so hard to keep to a normal-ish size even when tied in the simplest manner. The point made upthread about the taper being relevant as well as the thickness of silk and/or construction, is also valid. Ricci knots come out especially large for me even with a FIH because I'm shorter and so have to tie them at a point where the taper is insufficiently severe to permit a narrower knot.
     

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