Best Speaker Cables?

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by kronik, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. grimslade

    grimslade Senior member

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    Why don't you STFU and stay out of the thread if you don't want to learn Bryan?

    Why don't you chill, AF?
     


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    I don't understand how you can say this. Cardas created a real world test and then showed how his cables outperformed. He also publishes I, C, R metrics which has been shown to be accurate. If a cable is a transmitter of electrical signal, why doesn't capacitance matter? Why do teflon dielectrics not matter?

    Cardas is testing cables in a domain that is irrelevant to audio signalling, and interpreting the effects of those measurements in a way that has nothing to do with audio. L (not I), R, C matters, but not in the way Cardas writes they do.

    BJC offers cables that are well-engineered and terminated in very nice and relevant ways. For example, their interconnects are terminated with crimping, ensuring full 360-degree shield coverage at the most electrically susceptible part of an interconnect. They use interconnects with very low capacitance, ensuring that you won't lose high frequencies with long runs of cable. They offer the same functionality in a variety of cable types so that you can get the right cable for your installation.

    They also run a friendly business that's easy to deal with, and they don't charge very much money for that privilege. And I like how they explain their design choices in plain English that agrees with engineering principles and common sense.

    You could certainly get the same functionality at a lower price, but I'd rather pay a bit more, and have it all in one place instead of spending time putting together what I want myself.

    Kimber interconnects on the other hand are pretty stupid, and yes I have a few pair, including Heroes.

    --Andre
     


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    Why don't you chill, AF?

    First FNB and now this. No love from the fringe.

    --Andre
     


  4. the truth

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    I love you, man... I mean I really, really love you...
    +1.

    Does anybody have any speaker cables to cut open?
     


  5. Artisan Fan

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    Cardas is testing cables in a domain that is irrelevant to audio signalling, and interpreting the effects of those measurements in a way that has nothing to do with audio. L (not I), R, C matters, but not in the way Cardas writes they do.

    BJC offers cables that are well-engineered and terminated in very nice and relevant ways. For example, their interconnects are terminated with crimping, ensuring full 360-degree shield coverage at the most electrically susceptible part of an interconnect. They use interconnects with very low capacitance, ensuring that you won't lose high frequencies with long runs of cable. They offer the same functionality in a variety of cable types so that you can get the right cable for your installation.

    They also run a friendly business that's easy to deal with, and they don't charge very much money for that privilege. And I like how they explain their design choices in plain English that agrees with engineering principles and common sense.

    You could certainly get the same functionality at a lower price, but I'd rather pay a bit more, and have it all in one place instead of spending time putting together what I want myself.

    Kimber interconnects on the other hand are pretty stupid, and yes I have a few pair, including Heroes.

    --Andre


    I don't have any issue with BJC. I have a couple. But I don't think they perform as well as Kimber or Cardas or any high end cable I have tried.

    Why no love for Heros? You don't think they sound good? Everyone I know loves them. A relative bargain among high end cables.
     


  6. Artisan Fan

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    So why are you such a pussy that you are deathly afraid of substantiating any of the wild claims you make, anyway?

    It definitely speaks to low moral character.


    Why should anyone believe that this wouldn't be a colossal waste of time. Your comments are always angry and you have no record of objectivity or knowledge on this subject. You are like the Daily Kos of cable debates Gladwell.
     


  7. Sprezzatura2010

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    Gladwell?

    I don't think it would be a colossal waste of time because I would expect to walk out with a significant sum of your money when reality came crashing down on your poor little pathetic head and you were unable to tell the difference between any two wires of your choice.

    You, however, seem to lack any spine or courage of your convictions. Pussy.
     


  8. GQgeek

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    what the is teflon dielectric? And here I thought teflon was for cheap non-stick frying pans.
     


  9. Artisan Fan

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    what the is teflon dielectric? And here I thought teflon was for cheap non-stick frying pans.

    It is used in audio cables and capacitors to great effect.
     


  10. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    It is used in audio cables and capacitors to great effect.
    Was it used in the Flux Capacitor?
     


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  12. RJmanbearpig

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    Just curious, but whose sock puppet is Sprezzatura2069? Is he the truth?

    Also, AF, why not set up double-blind tests of some of these things? If your chosen brands really do perform better, it'll show all the sock puppets and naysayers.
     


  13. T4phage

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    The fact that kronik believes a number of people in this thread that took his initial post seriously is a tad disconcerting.

    kronik, you disappoint me more everyday.


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  14. T4phage

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    I wish there was a way to save money here as it would allow me to buy other toys but buying Blue Jeans cable is a bit like buying Geox and pretending you own a pair of Edward Green.


    boohoo 4u, and whose fault is that?

    Why don't you STFU and stay out of the thread if you don't want to learn Bryan?

    Ahhhhh.... now this is MOAR like it!!
     


  15. T4phage

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    .....If you actually believe that to be true, then put money on it in a blind test. Pussy.
    .....If you actually believe that to be true, then put money on it in a blind test. Pussy.
    .....If you actually believe that to be true, then put money on it in a blind test. Pussy. I'll even spring for fresh Blue Jeans Wire.


    "Listen" to a wire? My fucking God are you stupid. Or at least one of the most gullible human beings on this planet.

    (Unless you are referring to pulling it taut and either plucking it or running some sort of bow across it. Then it might have its own distinct sound.)


    So why are you such a pussy that you are deathly afraid of substantiating any of the wild claims you make, anyway?

    It definitely speaks to low moral character.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ........
    Also, AF, why not set up double-blind tests of some of these things? If your chosen brands really do perform better, it'll show all the sock puppets and naysayers.


    Why don't you try posting some objective measurements and not your fanboyism copied from Audioquest's marketing brochures?

    af no liek ABX, it is too scientific and logical.
     


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