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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by rtr, Jun 30, 2005.

  1. rtr

    rtr Member

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    I really appreciate all of the recommendations. After stopping by T&A and Bergdorf Goodman this afternoon, I decided to purchase a Charvet, which fit perfectly (short sleeves and all). I am really happy with it. What would I have done without Styleforum (and its recommendations to track down threads on AskAndy)? You guys make this an amazing resource. Newbies like myself can't thank you enough.
     
  2. taillfuzz

    taillfuzz Active Member

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    Good choice. Hard to beat Charvet for a white shirt.
     
  3. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

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    Those BG Charvet are cut for the US marketplace, right? I mean, they aren't tapered.
     
  4. rtr

    rtr Member

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    I think that's right. It has a more tailored fit than the other shirts I own, but it is not tapered so far as I can tell. I don't know if the Charvets for the French market are different.
     
  5. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    No one mentioned Carl?

    The CEGO gods are not smiling upon us
     
  6. chapunso

    chapunso Well-Known Member

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    try thomas pink (140$)
     
  7. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    I thought about it, but given the time he had, the shirt had to fit almost perfectly from the get-go. I'm sure CEGO could have a shirt in time, but what if it needed some tweaking...
     
  8. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Junk. Especially at that price.
     
  9. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    i collect three more of my nine-odd dollar shirts from the vietnamese tailor tomorrow. pretty happy with the first one, hope these turn out. i think id take 15.55 of them over one thomas pink [​IMG]
     
  10. philosophe

    philosophe Senior member

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    Charvet is a great choice. The fabrics are wonderful.
     
  11. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    m@T: How is the workmanship of these Vietnamese tailored garments? If they are as cheap as you describe -- at a fraction of the price of even Hong Kong tailors -- have you considered taking orders from SF members? Even if the quality is a step or two below Jantzen or Chan, surely the incredibly low pricing would make it worthwhile.
     
  12. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    quality basically ok, and at $9 i treat em as disposable.

    i found some nice cotton in the markets, but i have no idea what the quality is, what the composition is etc etc - i just know if looked nice n felt nice. these are questions you guys will all ask (and justifiably so) and i just have no answer cos i dont trust what the woman at the markets tells me anyhow.

    ive flirted with the idea of doing that as kinda a community service, but hit a few barriers....

    1. im logging 70 hour weeks in the real job
    2. im not prepared to stand by their workmanship in the face of the particularly anal customers that make these boards so great
    3. i dont trust other peoples measurements and dont want to put myself in the middle of "my sleeve is 1/4 inch too long, i told you X and this is x.25" and end up offering a warranty on something i didnt make and dealing with 100 emails from customers around the world (see point 1)
     
  13. chorse123

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    Entirely understandable. I think you'd only want to do it if you were setting it up as a business. I would imagine that the cost of labor is low enough in Vietnam that you could probably hire someone to help if you were so inclined. And you could say you wouldn't take orders unless the person was measure by a tailor.

    Does $9 include materials as well? What do your other tailored garments cost?
     
  14. johnapril

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    Those BG Charvet are cut for the US marketplace, right? Â I mean, they aren't tapered.
    I think that's right. It has a more tailored fit than the other shirts I own, but it is not tapered so far as I can tell. I don't know if the Charvets for the French market are different.
    I'll receive my first petite measure from Charvet this weekend. This is one I had made in Paris. I'll let you know about the difference in fit then. Ermenegildo Zegna (US) offers a slim fitting shirt in MTM.
     
  15. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    ok let me work this out more scientifically....

    Shirts:

    fabric cost me 50000 dong per meter, i need 2 meters
    tailoring cost me 60000 dong
    so 160000 dong total /15860 = 10.08 per shirt

    Trousers:

    wool (with Dormeuil spelt incorrectly on selvedge) cost me 120000 dong for 1.3 meters
    tailoring cost me 70000 dong
    so 190000/15860 = 11.98 per pair
     
  16. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    That's great. Do you think the workmanship is good? Have you ever considered importing your own material, or is that not possible?
     
  17. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    i think the workmanship is OK. Good if you show them a ton of pics and insist on details being matched etc etc - then theyll do quite well. left to their own devices...well.....as another expat once told me about Vietnam "the only place ive ever lived where people will spend three hours looking for ways to cut corners on a 20 minute job"

    yeah, i import my own cloth for suits - made 2, 1 to go when i get time to do it. Been basically happy with the results.

    Cost hovers between $50-60 for tailoring on full canvas suits

    Trousers I dont care so much (its 90+ most days here, so I seldom wear a jacket) - i settle for look good, drape well, feel nice with those.

    Suits Im more fussy of course and insist on nice cloth, which I buy on eBay from a guy (how6955) in England.
     
  18. AlanC

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    So what makes a shirt different than a blazer in this regard?
     
  19. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

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    Originally Posted by johnapril,July 01 2005,11:10
    I'll receive my first petite measure from Charvet this weekend. Â This is one I had made in Paris. Â I'll let you know about the difference in fit then. Ermenegildo Zegna (US) offers a slim fitting shirt in MTM.
    So what makes a shirt different than a blazer in this regard?
    Please restate the question. Ed- We have reprocessed this request from the Bible belt and come up with an answer: better choice in fabrics.
     
  20. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    m@T: I think you should seriously consider this. Start it as a business as chorse123 suggested and import cloth or allow buyers to send their own cloth. You seem like an entrepreneurial fellow -- since you're running your marketing (?) business -- so this may be something up your alley.

    Anyway, if you're serious about this perhaps you should start another thread so we can stop hijacking this one.
     

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