best off-the-rack suits

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  1. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    Attolini. Best RTW suits I have ever put on.

    As it turns out, a heavily machined "handmade" garment, not that there's anything wrong with that.[​IMG]
     


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    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    We had this discussion a few months ago, but I would say:

    1st tier:
    Kiton
    Brioni
    Borrelli
    Attolini
    Oxxford
    (Bijan?)

    2nd tier:
    Barbera
    RLPL
    St Andrews
    Isaia
    Zegna Napoli
    Belvest
    D'Avenza(sp?)

    3rd tier:
    Canali
    Corneliani
    Baldessarini
    Armani Black label
    Zegna (regular label)
    Vestamenta

    4th tier:
    RL Blue/Black Label
    Armani Collezioni
    Hugo Boss

    Rankings in groups are approximately in order.
     


  3. LARon

    LARon Senior member

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    Probably fair. I did put Isaia intentionally at the top of the 2nd list. I'm not familiar with RLPL, but I do own a pair of Barbera pants which are unbelievable. I haven't paid attention to Barbera's suits though.

    Your points are well taken.


    I agree with these two assessments.
     


  4. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Mine.
    Top: Attolini, Borrelli, Kiton, Oxxford, Brioni, Isaia, Zegna Napoli, PRPL. I am sure there are many other fine labels I missed.

    Middle: Ermenegildo Zegna, Canali, Baldessarini, Vestimenta.

    Low: J.P Tilford, Corneliani, Polo, all other suits with canvas but no handwork.



    Why have you lumped Corneliani in with Polo? Corneliani is a much better suit with a decent amount of handwork, assuming you're talking about the main line. Also, Polo's stuff uses fusing, which Corneliani doesn't.

    Edit: To clarify, I mean the mainline Corneliani stuff isn't fused.
     


  5. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    except for you. It's the style/cut that you like.

    Absolutely right. Oxxford is great if you like looking like my late grandfather, not if you're under the age of 50. Quality certainly plays a role, I would never argue otherwise, but if it isn't in a cut I like then it's useless to me.

    At any rate, the rankings in this thread are unintentionally funny.
     


  6. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    Oxxford is great if you like looking like my late grandfather, not if you're under the age of 50.

    What hyperbole. [​IMG]
     


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    Tuerney1 Well-Known Member

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    What hyperbole. [​IMG]

    Yeah, it depends on your build, too. Even as a 42, I am saddled with boxy shoulders and chest...and as a 52 was something of a cube. [​IMG]

    Many of the RTW brands listed don't fit me particularly well, whereas Oxxford does. If getting something made for me, I generally go for something much more fitted and smaller and higher through the armholes (and sometimes I luck into an off-the-rack suit that fits me like that...but it's pretty unusual). So, even for us non-grandfathers, I think Oxxford has a market. [​IMG]
     


  8. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    What hyperbole. [​IMG]
    Then here's a little more for you. The only suits with less sex appeal than Oxxford are those that the trads salivate over.
     


  9. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    Then here's a little more for you. The only suits with less sex appeal than Oxxford are those that the trads salivate over.

    Have you ever even seen an Oxxford suit, much less tried one on?
     


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    Why have you lumped Corneliani in with Polo? Corneliani is a much better suit with a decent amount of handwork, assuming you're talking about the main line. Also, Polo's stuff uses fusing, which Corneliani doesn't.

    The Polo BLue Label (cheaper one) is half canvas but made by Corneliani. I have one, I like it. But I agree, except for Corneliani's Trend line (I think). Or is Trend still full floating canvas?
     


  11. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    Have you ever even seen an Oxxford suit, much less tried one on?
    Yes. Any other questions?
     


  12. DocHolliday

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    The Polo BLue Label (cheaper one) is half canvas but made by Corneliani. I have one, I like it. But I agree, except for Corneliani's Trend line (I think). Or is Trend still full floating canvas?

    Trend uses fusing, as does CC. Only Corneliani's mainline stuff is fully canvassed.
     


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    Soph Senior member

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    Isaia really belongs between those two groups, along with RLPL and Barbera.

    Agreed I'd say:
    Oxxford---however they are essential sack suits other than the Radcliff.
    No silo.

    C. Attolini---Great silo.Great Fabrics. Beautiful clothing.Overpriced
    Kiton--- Average Silo.Great Fabrics. Too Expensive and Overpriced
    Borrelli--- Great sio.Great FAbrics.Best Value of the top tier. The cut is between Attolini and Kiton designed by one of Kiton's tailors.

    Brioni--- Power Suit silo.(great for those with non athletic physiques.Great Fab. a little less handiwork.expensive.

    L. Barbera [​IMG] Most under Rated Award. Fabrics are top notch.

    Isaia--only the top of the line

    Bogolio---Great cut, so so fabrics.

    Then:

    Canali
    Zegna
    Corneliani

    Just my opinion though.
     


  14. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Senior member

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    Agreed I'd say:
    Oxxford---however they are essential sack suits other than the Radcliff.
    No silo.

    C. Attolini---Great silo.Great Fabrics. Beautiful clothing.Overpriced
    Kiton--- Average Silo.Great Fabrics. Too Expensive and Overpriced
    Borrelli--- Great sio.Great FAbrics.Best Value of the top tier. The cut is between Attolini and Kiton designed by one of Kiton's tailors.

    Brioni--- Power Suit silo.(great for those with non athletic physiques.Great Fab. a little less handiwork.expensive.

    L. Barbera [​IMG] Most under Rated Award. Fabrics are top notch.

    Isaia--only the top of the line

    Bogolio---Great cut, so so fabrics.

    Then:

    Canali
    Zegna
    Corneliani

    Just my opinion though.



    Where would you put Ravazzolo on your list? on par with Brioni?
     


  15. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Senior member

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    How would you guys rank these suit makers?

    Sartoria Partenopea and Pal Zileri.

    Eddy Monetti? anyone heard of this brand?
     


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